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The Fall 2010 Anime Preview Guide

Here's the fansub thing in a nutshell:

We don't use fansubs for the preview guide unless there is absolutely no legal way to watch the show while the preview guide is happening. Then we use the fansubs, because that's what everyone else on the planet is using and it's supposed to be a preview guide that is relevant to the audience that's reading it.

Preview guides are the only place where we cover fansubs, and even then, only when there is no other alternative. We've been sticking hard and fast to this rule (notice how the only person who reviewed Star Driver was Gia? Notice how she was the only preview guide participant who was at New York Anime Festival where the show had its official english premiere?).

We've been over this a million times now in previous preview guides and we've been doing it this way for years. ~fin~

2) The screenshot Gia used very visibly has a TBS logo in the top right corner. Many subbers leave the logo on the video which is how you can tell that fansubs have been used even when there is a "legal" alternative on these previews.

Key wrote:

We have an official position on fansubs and an official policy on not promoting them. That does not, however, mean that we don't use them unofficially. The two are entirely separate so there's no hypocrisy.

... Uhm... I hate to break it do you, but promoting something, like not watching fansubs, while doing the exact opposite, like watching fansubs, IS hypocrisy.

As someone who was at the NYAF premiere of Star Driver, I know your defense of Gia is questionable.

1) Gia's update with Star Driver was posted at 14:08 EDT. The Star Driver panel started at 13:15 EDT and ran for an hour. The actual viewing of Star Driver did not begin until 13:30 EDT because there was an intro, Mr. Minami spoke to us before the viewing, and they had mic problems.

This means that Gia had her laptop out during the panel with a screenshot conveniently already prepared and was reviewing the show during Mr. Minami's Q and A. This also means that Gia paid $30.00 for the day to get wifi at the con instead of just waiting until after.

2) The screenshot Gia used very visibly has a TBS logo in the top right corner. Many subbers leave the logo on the video which is how you can tell that fansubs have been used even when there is a "legal" alternative on these previews.

3) If watching fansubs is okay when there's no legal alternatives, why isn't it okay for other reviewers to review Star Driver when there are no legal alternatives and it hasn't been licensed for simulcasting? The same goes for Togainu no Chi.

I was there when Minami instructed the audience on the "kiraboshi" pose (my first exposure to that, also)

D'oh, Gia has been Columbo'd!*

Blood- wrote:

D'oh, Gia has been Columbo'd!*

... as in when Columbo'd advance a tentative theory early in the show, someone would point out an obvious flaw, he'd pull his thumb and forefinger away from his forehead and say, "ya know, yur right, I shudda thought a' that".

agila61 wrote:

Blood- wrote: D'oh, Gia has been Columbo'd!* ... as in when Columbo'd advance a tentative theory early in the show, someone would point out an obvious flaw, he'd pull his thumb and forefinger away from his forehead and say, "ya know, yur right, I shudda thought a' that".

Precisely so.

Cake Eater wrote:

ANN's run by a bunch of hypocrites. They keep trashing fansubs when they themselves watch them. ┐(￣ー￣)┌

We have an official position on fansubs and an official policy on not promoting them. That does not, however, mean that we don't use them unofficially. The two are entirely separate so there's no hypocrisy.

Oh, and do try to put a bit more substance into your posts in the future. Blatant trolling won't be tolerated.

I'm glad the reviewers reacted so favourably to Otome Yokai Zakuro because external validation of my own splendid taste is always welcome. However, there was one aspect of the second eppie that didn't sit that well with me, although perhaps it was a fansub translation problem: namely, Zakuro's comments about how some aspects of Western influence were all right, but that other important things were being lost. Maybe I'm just too sensitive, but that kind of longing for "Old Japan" (i.e. before the nasty round-eyes started polluting it with their ways) struck me as a bit reactionary. It's the sort of sentiment you can imagine being flung around at an ultra-nationalist rally. Anybody else pick up on this?

.......Then we use the fansubs, because that's what everyone else on the planet is using...etc.

But at this point in time I don't see why with your connections, you simply can't ask permission from the studios for sample episodes

I've said this in the past when this was wheeled out as a legitimate excuse. Two wrongs don't make it right. If there is no other way of previewing a title except by using an illegal method, then I'd just as soon not know about it anyway. But at this point in time I don't see why with your connections, you simply can't ask permission from the studios for sample episodes, come on guy's it's not the 1990's anymore.