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Blood-
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Actually, KentaMaeba, I thought you handled yourself with a lot of class and you should be commended. I could learn something from your approach.
... I mean, I won't, but I should. 
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KentaMaeba
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Um, thanks Blood-! But I'm sure I wasn't the first one to deal with dtm's behaviour. You're giving me way too much credit.
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_Archer_
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Did you watch the whole dub? From what I heard in the first episode, I'd have to say the dub was pretty bad and most of the accents were terrible. I've meet multiple French people who learned English as a second language in my life, and none of them would ever sound like what Charl sounded like. Cecelia's accent coming in and out doesn't help either. Did it get better then? Because otherwise I can't really see the dub and sub having the same score, since I would imagine the dub is worse.
And although the Japanese dubbing not having accents between the characters is a legitimate and understandable complaint, is that really something English speakers would notice? I have to say though, I found this anime to be pretty enjoyable. It was just fun and relaxing to watch. |
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Veers
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ArsenicSteel
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I've never heard a uniquely French accent in spoken Japanese. What I've found is when native Japanese speakers hear bad sounding Japanese from a foreigner(non-Asian) the general assumption is that the foreigner's native language is English. A Russian couple I know hates being spoken to in English(even though they do speak it) when they visit Japan when they are trying to use Japanese.. |
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Gewürtztraminer
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Wow, watched it streaming on TAN, thought it was ok, loved the char designs and the basic harem story. Never understood why it was so crazy popular, but thought it interesting enough to buy for the OVA, dub, and possible rewatch.
I buy what I buy, (which is a ton) and recommend a whole lot less, this one I can not recommend to many. |
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Moonsaber
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Why oh why did we get this instead of Sky Girls? Not saying SG was all that much better. Ok, yes it was. Possibly more offensive, but it had a much better plot. Sillier mecha, better plot. And tail.. things... that made no sense.
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BigOnAnime
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All I had to do was just look at the last page to see something, and I guessed right, it was dtm42 and his usual stuff. While he's entitled to his opinion, he shouldn't be going about it the way he did. |
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Key
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Yes, I watched every single second of it dubbed. And yes, the accents aren't good; that's why I called them speech affectations in the review.
The dub isn't worse because A) the unaccented performances were generally pretty solid, and B) at least in the English dub you can clearly tell the characters apart and get at least some sense of their nationalities. IOW, the fact that the English dub wasn't graded lower is at least as much a condemnation of the Japanese dub, which seemed to me to make no effort whatsoever to suggest that any of those girls weren't native Japanese. That isn't a problem just limited to this series, though; most titles which use multinational casts have that same problem with their Japanese vocal work, possibly for the reason that ArsenicSteel mentioned. |
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_Archer_
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Oh, alright then. Thanks! |
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aereus
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I dunno if I would consider that a problem per se, Key. As I really doubt the accents were even a consideration to them. That kind of stuff generally doesn't matter to them -- they would rather the voice performance be solid, than attempt to poorly mimic some type of accent.
The only time that comes into play is if they're trying to point out how bad the "baka gaijins" Japanese is. Or when they want to single-out someone as being a yokel and give them a Kansai accent. IMHO there was nothing wrong with the Japanese dubbing. They used a lot of well-known VAs, and the tones of their voices were sufficiently different that I had no trouble knowing who was speaking. Ichika's older sister has a very deep voice. Char has a rather high-pitched voice (Kana Hanazawa, go!), Laura is more of a tenor, etc. If anything, dubbing is the one thing that IS did really well, even if the plot is terrible and the characters are straight tropes... |
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Xanas
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I got this in today. I haven't watched it yet. Review is about what I would expect for this show.
I liked the series myself, but I've become a sucker for certain character types. Charlotte was definitely my favorite. Something being meaningful hasn't been a requirement for it to be entertaining to me for awhile now, although I wouldn't every show to be as pointless as this one tends to be. The should could have been much better if it had been a little more focused even with the ridiculous premise. But I enjoyed it nevertheless. |
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dragonrider_cody
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Key was simply referring to the fact that having everyone speaking in the same dialect and accent just isn't authentic for a show with a multinational cast. Sure they can still have good performances, but why would an English teenager have the same accent as one from Tokyo? It's the same problem I had with the movie Valkyrie. They are suppose to be German soldiers, yet they speak English with American accents. It totally ruins the authenticity of the movie. I can understand not doig the movie in a foreign language, but they could have at least attempted German accents. Personally, I always give props when R1 studios attempt accents, even though they don't have the time and budgeting to do proper voice coaching that major movies and TV do. They are at least attempting to add something to the show, and in the case of IS, it fits. The accents weren't great, but at least the performances were solid. Of course, other than Hellsing, which used actors with an English accent, I can't really think of anime series that didn't have issues when they attempted to use them. |
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enurtsol
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Or why have a multinational cast at all if nobody's even gonna try? (Though an adaptation's source kinda limits them...... Though written words can have accents too, right?  )
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Chagen46
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Why does the girl in our current ad for this show look like she has cat ears when she's in her IS? She's damn cute, I'll admit. Too bad he design was wasted on....this.
You know, all this show has done is inspire me to write my own original fiction, centering around exoskeleton mecha like IS. Hell, if this talentless hack can do it, I sure can Well, this show was good for one thing; getting me out of this writing slump. |
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