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dragon695



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:44 pm Reply with quote
Saffire wrote:
Lord Geo wrote:
Surrender Artist wrote:
Charred Knight wrote:
The Sengoku era is a fascinating era with a lot of colorful personality. Its the Japanese equivalent to the American Civil War(something that actually needs to be mined more), and the Three Kingdoms Era.


I nominally agree, but I can't help thinking that all we'd get in the end is Abraham Lincoln with boobs and moe Ambrose Burnside with... interesting pubic hair.


O you could go with the Dynasty Warriors style, and have the Union & Confederate generals be hyper-stylized... Or, hell, go the Sengoku Basara route and just crazy with it.

Think of the likes of Ulysses S. Grant, Stonewall Jackson, and Robert E. Lee reimagined in the crazy stylings of Sengoku Basara...
Zac and Justin already pitched that, I think during the holiday episode. Wink

I like how even after declaring a moratorium on MGX, they still managed to sidetrack back into it.

That's because ectoplasm eating is just that gross... Exclamation
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:44 pm Reply with quote
Surrender Artist wrote:
Charred Knight wrote:
The Sengoku era is a fascinating era with a lot of colorful personality. Its the Japanese equivalent to the American Civil War(something that actually needs to be mined more), and the Three Kingdoms Era.


I nominally agree, but I can't help thinking that all we'd get in the end is Abraham Lincoln with boobs and moe Ambrose Burnside with... interesting pubic hair.


I fully expect an anime series of the civil war to have Grant and Sherman as Gay lovers.

As for the rest of the ANNCast: probably the best recent so bad its good anime would be Code Geass.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:48 pm Reply with quote
dragon695 wrote:
Saffire wrote:
Lord Geo wrote:
Surrender Artist wrote:
Charred Knight wrote:
The Sengoku era is a fascinating era with a lot of colorful personality. Its the Japanese equivalent to the American Civil War(something that actually needs to be mined more), and the Three Kingdoms Era.


I nominally agree, but I can't help thinking that all we'd get in the end is Abraham Lincoln with boobs and moe Ambrose Burnside with... interesting pubic hair.


O you could go with the Dynasty Warriors style, and have the Union & Confederate generals be hyper-stylized... Or, hell, go the Sengoku Basara route and just crazy with it.

Think of the likes of Ulysses S. Grant, Stonewall Jackson, and Robert E. Lee reimagined in the crazy stylings of Sengoku Basara...
Zac and Justin already pitched that, I think during the holiday episode. Wink

I like how even after declaring a moratorium on MGX, they still managed to sidetrack back into it.

That's because ectoplasm eating is just that gross... Exclamation


yeah yeah it's gross but more of the matter is who cares anymore. I am way to to jaded to let it bother me or stop me lol... not even corpse party made me flinch feel free to have an example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBVh1SL4a7w
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dragon695



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:15 pm Reply with quote
Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
dragon695 wrote:
Saffire wrote:
Lord Geo wrote:
Surrender Artist wrote:
Charred Knight wrote:
The Sengoku era is a fascinating era with a lot of colorful personality. Its the Japanese equivalent to the American Civil War(something that actually needs to be mined more), and the Three Kingdoms Era.


I nominally agree, but I can't help thinking that all we'd get in the end is Abraham Lincoln with boobs and moe Ambrose Burnside with... interesting pubic hair.


O you could go with the Dynasty Warriors style, and have the Union & Confederate generals be hyper-stylized... Or, hell, go the Sengoku Basara route and just crazy with it.

Think of the likes of Ulysses S. Grant, Stonewall Jackson, and Robert E. Lee reimagined in the crazy stylings of Sengoku Basara...
Zac and Justin already pitched that, I think during the holiday episode. Wink

I like how even after declaring a moratorium on MGX, they still managed to sidetrack back into it.

That's because ectoplasm eating is just that gross... Exclamation


yeah yeah it's gross but more of the matter is who cares anymore. I am way to to jaded to let it bother me or stop me lol... not even corpse party made me flinch feel free to have an example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBVh1SL4a7w

So, obviously you've read the source material. Is it a body horror or does it stay an oddball romcom?
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Cecilthedarkknight_234



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:24 pm Reply with quote
dragon695 wrote:
So, obviously you've read the source material. Is it a body horror or does it stay an oddball romcom?


All i can say is that it gets bizarre beyond words so more of bizarre romcom with a lot of symbolism and other things down the road like with the dreams so far. The drool or spit was to symbolize their connection or bond with each other but I can't spoil anything else nor will I do so.

To Zac, I do realize alot of people don't read scanlated manga or want to go into a series fresh. I personally tend to look up the source material for a series and check it out when an anime comes out that intrigues me, I have always done this I really can't explain why but i respect those that want to go in not knowing.

Edit: Had to fix some grammar mistakes


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superdry



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:34 pm Reply with quote
That was an amusing listen. I wonder if this thread is going to explode with more MGX discussion since you guys mentioned it so many times.

Regarding Upotte! - I have no clue what direction the show is going to take, but episode 2 was highly fun to watch. It toned down the innuendos and sexuality a lot (watched it a few days ago, so don't remember if there were still any...even slight ones). It was fun seeing the girls play a game of capture the flag and it continues to be informative about guns (I think Bamboo might like those trivia tidbits).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:37 am Reply with quote
Justin: Dunno about people dying from being beaned, but there are true stories of people getting heart attacks from being hit in chest by baseballs.

As for We Were There, the manga's in English from Viz. Could've saved yourself the trouble by reading the sample on Shojo Beat's official site. The more you know... Wink

And Eyeshield might've bombed as an anime, but as long as they only licensed a fraction of it, then they probably broke even, worst case scenario. Not sure about Mikami, though, since they did get it all out, except for the movie. But the latter could still be tied up with Manga.

Zac: I'm in the minority on liking the second Fujiko ep more than the first, but then I'm a Jigen fan. As for the animation quality, they're allegedly tweaking it for home video release.

As for the nudity in Fujiko, I'm guessing it's in there, because it's an anniversary show, so they're given more free reign to push the boundaries of the franchise. 'Cus after this, they will probably have to go back to regular "family-friendly" Lupin.

Oh, and going back to Fujiko's prospects, don't underestimate stylish risque content. It helped sell Afro Samurai. Plus, people took that POS Spawn cartoon seriously, and the writing was weaker than the LA movie. And while it's true you can't put it on CN, it would fit right in with Spike.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:57 am Reply with quote
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The imagery of Mysterious Girlfriend X is basically anime porn: a finger with a glob of spit instead of a penis with a glob of semen (although it's a girl's finger, so extra bizarro points), and girls drooling spit instead of vulva seeping fluids. Did the images of honey dripping off a sunflower not give that part away? There's still stuff going on in the story other than all the images, so I'm ignoring the porn to see what it really is.

#2
The sengoku era and Nobunaga is more like the legend of King Arthur, not George Washington or Abe Lincoln. The succession from Nobunaga, through Hideyoshi, to Tokugawa is the unification of Japan. It's proportion is as epic as the unification of Britain under Arthur, except that Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Tokugawa were real people.

But think about the number and ways that King Arthur has been perverted in ridiculous retellings. A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court is tame and respectful compared to most. If Disney's The Once and Future King springs to anyone's mind, I highly suggest reading T. H. White's book, which is still fanciful, but a more studious treatment than the Disney version.

#3
Although Funimation is late streaming Jormungand, I have to say it really impresses me more than anything I've seen so far. As much as everyone seems to love Space Brothers and The Kids on the Slope, I'm not going to be watching Space Brothers, and The Kids on the Slope may not last too long with me. I loved Cowboy Bebop, and I think I have almost every Youko Kanno CD ever made (except the Wolf's Rain stuff). Compared to everything else I've seen, Jormungand is a blast. The character art is a little odd, but I hope the show goes somewhere and doesn't run out of steam halfway through.
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tuxedocat



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:07 am Reply with quote
I would have loved to know what the three favorite movies would have been if you guys had time to think about it.

Trying to choose three out of an entire decade is not that easy.

Off the top of my head I would have listed Bergman's Fanny and Alexander, Kasdan's Silverado and Cronenberg's Dead Ringers. Then I started remembering a ton of other movies that came out in that decade. John Carpenters' best stuff was made in the 80's. There were a lot of really fun, creative, low budget horror films made during that decade.
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Tanteikingdomkey



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:10 am Reply with quote
Lord Geo wrote:
-Even though Justin says that Major takes place "now", the original manga did start in the 90s, so maybe back then the idea of the father dying in a baseball game didn't seem quite as ridiculous. Anyway, I remember my friends really enjoying Major, though I think it was in a "It gets better and better as it goes on", though one of my friends felt that Season 6 was partially "filler-ish", since Major was more about the characters and their lives than just strictly baseball games, which is was the last season apparently focuses more on.

I am really sorry about that image again, I wasn't thinking when I posted it and I didn't consider that most people would consider relationships between the charcters as a spoiler. I normally have to show my mom (who loved nodame) stuff like that so she can understand it better and focus on the story. Please don't hate me I actually respect you guys a lot.

on major
Let me start by saying I like sports anime
I am a student athletic trainer at my school, I can tell you right now EVEN IN THE 90's THE "FATHER" COULD NOT DIE LIKE THAT. people actually treat concussions seriously unlike the 1920's. if you get a head injury at professional or college level like that father got you would be immediately tested an most likely pulled from play for 2 weeks, while you where doing rehab. IF that did happen THE ENTIRE TRAINING TEAM COACH and other major staff INCLUDED would be FIRED.

P.S. funimation offers a elite subscription which offers HD for most (if not all) of their simulcast in HD. Lupin maybe in HD as well.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:41 am Reply with quote
Media Blasters is having a booth at Anime Central next week. So I'm assuming that they'll sell the Fushigi Yugi DVD there, that is.
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With Mysterious Girlfriend X, I just couldn't find the idea that a guy is really into this this girl and is going to not unconditionally tolerate not just her other weird quirks, but more importantly her wanting him to taste her spit on a regular basis and not hug her, kiss her, or hold hands without her using a pair of scissors strapped within her underwear to cut everything around him and not try to explain why as "believable." When I briefly talked to my friend about it, he made it seem like I missed the point of show. And honestly it's not that we didn't watch the same thing or didn't watch the episodes done the same way. It's just that we ended up having different points-of-views toward the show.

Among the few arguments I've heard for the show, one is that it's trying be different from other anime romances in which the relationship is established from the first episode onward. Another argument that my friend uses is that the spit tasting thing is only used as a device for the endearing romance and is not the point of the show. The second argument I get already and I'll admit by the second episode, the spit tasting doesn't come exactly as gross to me. But the fact it's being used as a device for a relationship that is being so different from the norm that it ceases to make sense and disconnected to reality while being dead-serious about it is what bothers me about the show and I feel could bother me more-so if I watched more of it.

I mentioned this before on the Spring Preview guide thread and I think it's worth repeating, but on that AnnCast episode "Moe Money, Moe Problems", Hope Chapman was discussing with Greg about what to look for out of characters and story in a show and Hope mentioned that how it boils down whether you want a show to be different from the norm or do you want it to have a connection to reality. And they're really two different mindsets towards watching a show. Not that the show is moe, but in the case of Mysterious Girlfriend X, if you fall into the category of people that wants a show to be different from the norm, then Mysterious Girlfriend X is totally up your alley. If you fall into the latter category like I do, as well as Hope, Zac and Justin (I assume. Stories about shitty teenagehood aside, his tastes in stories still come off as a somewhat of a head-scratcher to me), then you would get either bored, turned off, or even grossed out by Mysterious Girlfriend X.

I don't prioritize looking for a show that tries to so different from the previous show I watched. While I do think exploring unique ideas for a story is a plus for me, I really want the show to make a point and I want the point to make sense or be believable. Not that this is really anime, but this is why I think a lot of people, kids, teens, and adults can't help liking something like Toy Story. The sheer concept of a movie revolving around toys, inanimate onjects for kids to play with sounds like something only the youth would give a crap about. But draws a lot of people in regardless of age is that it takes the wonder of what these Toys would be thinking and caring about if they had a soul in a way that does make sense.

Also, I don't know if Zac looks any different from that picture he showed of himself years back when he was still doing the Hey Answerman columns, but I'm feeling tempted to somehow draw an entire nation of Zac Bertschys sitting infront of the TV stroking their rabbits while watching Polar Bear Cafe. He may not want to visualize that, but I'm not sure if I'm gonna honor that request. Laughing
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There have been a number of deaths in professional baseball. Off the top of my head... Ray Chapman was struck in the head by a pitch and later died. This was before batting helmets were required. Doc Powers crashed into an outfield wall trying to field a pop fly and died. If you've seen "The Natural," the death of one of the players in that movie is based on Powers' death. More recently, a minor league first base coach was struck in the head by a line drive, which killed him. Since then, base coaches have been required to wear helmets.

There's been other deaths as well; including umpires, fans, etc. But again, that's all I can think of without actually googling.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:32 am Reply with quote
While I can understand Justin's take on Major, he is definitely in the wrong by thinking that a fastball straight to the head leading to a concussion which could then lead to death is an impossibility. Concussion related deaths are kind of a big topic of debate in high school and collegiate athletics right now. Heck, even the NFL and the NHL (probably others too) have made specific rules about aiming at a player's head when tackling/checking. It's a very serious subject matter. People have died due to concussions sustained in their respective sport. And while as far as I know there hasn't been any deaths post-batting-helmet in the MLB, there have been fatalities in baseball from catastrophic head injuries at the high school and collegiate level.

That said, the first season of Major is definitely the best, so you made the right decision in dropping it Justin.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:47 am Reply with quote
I should just record that question I had at some point and mail it in, take it or leave it. That would be more convenient.

regarding Media Blasters,

Hitler is informed that Bandai and Media Blasters are shutting down their Anime releases


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