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ANNCast - Spring The Pain

/a/ really isn't a forum in the traditional sense, though. It moves too fast and is a little too "unreserved" sometimes for me to really think of using it. At least it's not /jp/--/a/ can actually be a pretty cool place sometimes.

stealthMomo wrote:

TitanXL isn't well known to me. Nor are any of the commentators here. I wont be back to discuss this subject or any other. The views of the majority here are SO far from my views that any meaningful discussion is impossible. May you all enjoy your crappy, watered down excuses for anime. I will continue on my merry way watching TRUE anime. Thanks for the discouraging but laughable time.

So it's not worth discussing something with people because you have no tolerance for opinions that are not your own? I hate to break it to you, but people still have free will and we are not a collective conscience. They have every right to make their own judgement and you are not in any position to claim your own judgements are more important or superior in any way, shape or form than those of others. There's no room in a discussion for holier than thou "my opinion is god" speeches and viewpoints, if you can't even respect peoples rights to make their own decisions then there's no place for you in a discussion. Thanks for playing.

stealthMomo wrote:

As I said, I stumbled onto this thread almost by accident. I've long known ANN has a bias. I've often thought ANN was just a shill-factory for FUNimation, but a quick Google and Wiki search shows me it is privately owned (which does not necessarily remove the suspicion of shilling). At any rate, I hold pretty strong convictions as well, so as I said, I know I am not welcome here.

ANN has a bias? Pot calling the kettle black I guess, especially since your last comment is just a nicer way of saying that you are bias yourself. Again, as I stated in my initial warning, you are perfectly welcome to state your opinion. What you are not welcome to do is be outright beligerent and insult other posters for daring to have an opinion that does not match your own. You were being completely disrespectful and insulting towards other users simply because they didn't agree with you and that is not acceptable. It is perfectly fine for you to have your convictions and even make your points, but the line gets drawn when you feel compelled to start disrespecting and insulting others for theirs.

This isn't difficult to understand. Be respectful and be civil and there isn't a problem. Bias has nothing to do with, it's simply a matter of common decency. At any rate, if you truly feel this is all the result of some bias then there's [url="animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=50"]a place to bring that up[/url] if you wish to discuss it further. If you want to keep participating in this thread then by all means do so, but cut the beligerent attitude towards other people and understand that not everyone is going to agree with your opinions, and those opinions are just your opinions.

A good ADR director and translator can probably work around such oddities and do a decent job. I don't really watch dubs, so I wouldn't know and could compare, but I would assume that could be the case sometimes.

Has any dubbed show figured out a way to get around something like that?

TitanXL isn't really a troll or anything. People just view him as one since he has differing opinions from the majority here and isn't afraid to speak them, which often causes people to respond to him. If he talked the exact same way, yet loved artsy/westernized anime, nobody would have a problem with him.

ANN does have a bias, but all forums/websites do. Out of the 3 main forums I go to for anime (/a/, MAL and ANN), its the one that is the most "Western/mainstream anime" leaning. MAL is kinda inbetween Otaku and Western, and /a/ is like all the way on the opposite side of the spectrum from ANN.

Though I don't really have a problem with it. People like what they like, and people of a similar mind will generally go to specific forums where others have the same tastes.

I quite agree that Dragon695 is another tedious soap-boxer and I'd love to see his knuckles rapped, too. I despise all soap-boxers regardless of whatever their dumb little hobby-horse might be.

superdry wrote:

A good ADR director and translator can probably work around such oddities and do a decent job. I don't really watch dubs, so I wouldn't know and could compare, but I would assume that could be the case sometimes.

They'd probably have to do a lot of work in certain cases (there's really no way I can see Daisy from Sket Dance working in a dub, her speech gimmick would sound really awkward in English)

Calling /a/ the end of the otaku spectrum is.. no. They're actually pretty western-focused from what I've seen. I've seen far more otaku forums than them. I remember I mentioned Gally in a thread once and people were confused, then someone said "You mean Alita" and the whole thread exploded into trolling on if American dub names was better or Japanese ones. If it was really otkau, I doubt many people would even know or care about the dub names for shows.

We're talking about a forum where they have giant general topics dedicated to Infinite Stratos and Idolmaster, and you're considered an outsider if you prefer anime that doesn't have cute girls. There may be a few people that like that stuff, but you're generally shunned if you bring it up.

RyanSaotome wrote:

We're talking about a forum where they have giant general topics dedicated to Infinite Stratos and Idolmaster, and you're considered an outsider if you prefer anime that doesn't have cute girls. There may be a few people that like that stuff, but you're generally shunned if you bring it up.

You're a normal..g if you have not seen hundreds of titles or are not familiar with the in-jokes, but no one picks on you if you like LoGH or Berserk or Bebop.

Well yeah, legendary titles like that are one thing. But when I say "prefer", I'm talking about the people who always talk about the "Golden Age" before moe took over and how moe sucks and the more mainstream anime is better. If you start talking like that, you're gonna get ridiculed to no end.

We're talking about a forum where they have giant general topics dedicated to Infinite Stratos and Idolmaster, and you're considered an outsider if you prefer anime that doesn't have cute girls. There may be a few people that like that stuff, but you're generally shunned if you bring it up.

For example, Kids on the Slope topics almost always devolve into people talking about it being "pretentious BL anime that only normal***s would like" and bashing others shows like it.. Yet I've seen nothing but love for shows like Nyarko-San and Acchi Kocchi (outside of the occasional troll who prefers some other moe show this season so they take it out on the more popular ones). Its kinda funny, one of the most common comebacks whenever someone is talking about liking the more mainstream/westernized anime is "Go back to ANN forums", since ANN has a reputation for liking that stuff a lot.

You seriously do not get how /a/ works, at all.

Do you have some sort of medical condition where a flood of endorphins is released into your system every time you condescend to someone about how much better your understanding of some otaku apocrypha is than theirs?