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NEWS: Cameron Explains Why Avatar 2/3 Will Precede Battle Angel

Re: pretension

A person is not a "douche" for being pretentious. Pretention as a creative person means that you think heavily about your work, and that your work is aimed at the segment of the population who enjoys using their brains. That is a good thing. As far as anime goes, some examples would be the Patlabor movie or Wings of the Honneamise or Evangelion or Utena. Sure something does not have to be pretentious to be good (such as Strike Witches mentioned above), but certainly it helps.

If anything, in my opinion, Avatar was not pretentious enough, as the dialogue and plotting were rather stilted and course, and didn't match the concepts and art. I really wish that more attention was paid to these aspects, as it could have taken Avatar from a temporary curio and special effects extravaganza into the realm of timeless classics. I hope more attention is given to Battle Angel.

1: characterized by pretension: as

a : making usually unjustified or excessive claims (as of value or standing) <the>

b : expressive of affected, unwarranted, or exaggerated importance, worth, or stature <pretentious> <pretentious>

huh? oh sure, pretention is a noun and pretentious is an adjective.

Pretention is a claim of dignity, importance and excellence, and pretentious is claiming something has dignity, importance and excellence. But now you are just being semantical?

Quark wrote:

Or the fact that Cameron couldn't just release one version of the movie on DVD and Blu-ray. No, no, there needed to be THREE different versions. Then you have the tie-in products, and the merchandise...

Yes, because I am sure Cameron was in charge of deciding how the DVDs and Blu-rays were released.

Then why say the film doesn't preach to the audience and is solely about a fictional planet?

This is going to be another chance for your to flip-flop on your points and reasoning.

You can count me as one of those who won't mind if he never does it. I don't like Cameron's recent movies and I don't think he'll do it justice.

And you are too cowardly to present an opinion.

The film didn't tell anyone to do anything.

And you are too cowardly to present an opinion. The film didn't tell anyone to do anything. It has a message that can be interpreted through its themes, but that's it. It didn't say "hey you, anime fan with all posters of animated girls' asses on your wall, I'm mad at you for not being more green and driving your car with crappy fuel mileage." Despite that, that's how some of the intellectually bankrupt people on this forum react. I'd say that's more a statement on how utterly insecure they are.

This is a movie speaking out against the evils of technology and intrinsic greed of humans.

That's my thoughts as well, the James Cameron that made the two Terminator movies? He would make a great Battle Angel Alita film, but James Cameron now only cares about making billions of dollars, and winning Oscars so he would make some crap about how Alita's life is so utterly tragic, and how being a cyborg without memory sucks.

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This is a movie speaking out against the evils of technology and intrinsic greed of humans.

And how many anime titles are about that subject, like 70 percent? Yet, the manufacturing of plastic discs in Japan and the cutting down of trees to produce the posters you adorn your rooms with that tie into those things are 100 percent A-OK. It's just good old fashioned hypocrisy. James Cameron isn't a hypocrite, because he isn't bitching at people about those things like you are. He just made a movie with a pro-enviornment message. But god damn him for making a movie with a political theme, because it's not an anime.

Oh and suddenly wanting to make money through art is "wrong" too. This is just too rich. Especially coming from someone with a Gainax related avatar.

Third, even with training I doubt any of the people on this thread have the vision or skill to produce anything close to what James Cameron makes.

But god damn him for making a movie with a political theme, because it's not an anime.

Oh and suddenly wanting to make money through art is "wrong" too. This is just too rich. Especially coming from someone with a Gainax related avatar.

Third, even with training I doubt any of the people on this thread have the vision or skill to produce anything close to what James Cameron makes.

Has anyone ever criticized George Lucas for making the Empire Strikes Back instead of moving on to something different? No.

If you cared to think a bit outside of your obsessive viewpoint, you might replace "Empire Strikes Back" with "The Phantom Menace" in that sentence. It would be illuminating.

Super Ninja wrote:

And you are too cowardly to present an opinion. The film didn't tell anyone to do anything. It has a message that can be interpreted through its themes, but that's it. It didn't say "hey you, anime fan with all posters of animated girls' asses on your wall, I'm mad at you for not being more green and driving your car with crappy fuel mileage." Despite that, that's how some of the intellectually bankrupt people on this forum react. I'd say that's more a statement on how utterly insecure they are.

As opposed to your intellectual arguments where accuse people who disagree with you of having posters covered with anime girl asses.
I don't dislike his movie because of it's eco-friendly message. I disliked it because I thought it was boring, poorly written, derivative, and completely hypocritical.
This is a movie speaking out against the evils of technology and intrinsic greed of humans. However, it uses cutting edge technology (some that was created solely for the movie!), requires little plastic glasses to get the full effect of the movie, and has oodles of merchandise, and is set to become a trilogy, allowing them to further rake in the cash. I'm not understanding how you're not seeing that the movie is giving two completely conflicting messages.
You are completely dancing around why people dislike the movie. Accusing people of being jealous, or making weird accusations about people being into lolicon and anime porn, or saying that they never made a movie so they have no right to complain (despite the fact that the majority of people have neither the training nor the money to make movies) is usually the last defense of someone who can't defend their opinion very well.