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erinfinnegan
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That and the promotional art, and the part where she's BFFs with Little Red Riding Hood made me think "wolf".
Yes, I know, and I liked that part of the show. I really wanted to like it more, but...
I getting sick of favor-based or "do anything" agencies. A show with that premise has to work hard to earn my favor lately.
I promise I understood this show, and even liked parts of it! The parts I didn't like were the more otaku-ish parts of the show. I didn't make a list, but every time the show veered away from fairy tale standards to anime tropes I got annoyed. It sounds like you really liked this show, and you're upset that I didn't like it more. Angrily denouncing my opinion as "incorrect" and nitpicking my first impression is hardly going to change my mind and suddenly make me like the show more. For example, you were right about the "kitty" boxing gloves, I'd forgotten about that, but I don't like the show more for it. Ringo keeps making the tough girl dress in cute clothes, and that's something I've seen in lots and lots of anime and manga. Put the tough girl in a dress - hilarious! But it isn't instant comedy to me. |
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Dark Absol
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From the Shelve Obsessed, I'd like to know where I can get that Nymph Wall Scroll and Figurine? (If possible, please PM me?)
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maaya
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Like most parents, I guess. Many of these baby name books are highly untrustworthy and often the authors simply just make things up, because they don't know better or to have a pretty meaning to go with every name (because some names have rather unpretty or unknown meanings, so they just change these). Apparently the word was first used as a name by Irish settlers abroad and from there became very popular in the US. |
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zensunni
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What I didn't understand is how you got from fairytale wolf to confusing it with "fox deity-based titles". You asked if we could blame you. I guess my answer is yes, since I don't get the connection... 
This is actually the first show about a favor-based "do anything" agency that I have watched more than two or three episodes of. (Clever pun by the way! ) They usually don't keep my attention, as they either don't have the type of story line that draws me in, the characters are not compelling to me, or the comedy is too hit or miss. The fairytale aspect of Ōkami-san kept my attention, and I am a sucker for light romance, which was the basic continuing plot line...
Well, as I have said before, cliches don't seem to bother me nearly as much as the bother other people. But really, I wasn't intending to "nitpick" your first impressions. Rather, I was confused at how little you mentioned the fairytale aspects of the story and where you got fox deity from fairytale wolf in the first place. I seriously had never even considered any deity aspect in the name. I just didn't associate Ōkami-san with Kami-sama at all, so I was really, genuinely surprised that you had confused that part... Sorry if you were offended. Much of my rant was originally aimed at someone's comment about how I might feel different about cliches after watching the same ones for six whole years! Heaven forbid! I have been watching shows full of cliches for over 40 years. Sure, the US shows use different ones than the Japanese shows, sometimes, but that doesn't mean they aren't still there. (The playing twists of gender based expectations for laughs is just as common in US shows, for instance.) The suggestion that 6 years of watching stuff with cliches might change my mind probably turned on my sarcastic tone a bit strong! About the fairytale part, though: Reading your review, I thought back to Carl's review of the episodes 1-6 when it was only available streaming. It isn't any more complementary about the show when it moves away from the fairytale aspects, it does stress that those aspects are the heart of the show. (That review is what prompted me to watch the show in the first place. The fractured fairytale concept sounded funny and I expected that the lapses into angst and anime standards wouldn't bother me as much as it did the reviewer.) The lack of emphasis of that fairytale theme after the first paragraph was what struck me as odd. In the quoted section above, you assured me that you understood the show, but I couldn't tell that from your review. It seems that you agree with me that the fairytale connection to each character and each storyline is essential to the humor, the fact that you only gave it a passing mention in the review left me unsure if you had "gotten" all of those sometimes quite obscure, from a western point of view, references. I am really not meaning to attack your point of view on the show. (Aside, I suppose from the whole fox deity thing... sorry again if I offended...) Since I bought the DVD/BluRay combo for the show, you are correct in thinking that I liked it. Though I must admit that the dub is what put it over the edge. Before I heard the first couple of episodes dubbed, I thought of it as a fun show with a really funny premise and a decent continuing storyline connecting the otherwise disparate episodes. But the amount of text in the subtitles, due mostly to the narration, was troublesome for my aging eyes to handle, so there was too much pausing and backing up while watching. Watching the dub, I really found it so much more enjoyable! And Luci Christian really does a great job! I also agree with you on Terri Doty's performance. She was spot-on for the role! Her dry, sarcastic tone was fantastic. In addition, I am always a fan of Brina Palencia's work. The fact that the actress who voiced Holo is voicing the wolf in this show is a nice touch, though I don't know if people would know that from listening. She really doesn't sound anything like Holo in this performance. (Which is a good thing! If Ōkami sounded like a 600+ year old wolf goddess instead of a teenager, it would be a bit off!) |
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dtm42
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Funny how there was even a debate about the usage of macrons in the first place when the very picture of the boxset in the article shows that the title has a macron in it.
Oh good lord, kill me now. That is one of my top ten most hated tropes, along with about two hundred others. It is such a lazy, misogynistic and just plain moronic trope that I've actually - as in literally - physically winced with pain from cringing after seeing it used. Not all or even most of time, but still on more than one occasion. Yikes. |
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