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Shelf Life - All the Gintama In the World

Because Gintama is, as Lord Geo says, about 80 percent silly and 20 percent serious, for me the serious dramatic arcs are very welcome as part of the series as a whole. They make me appreciate the characters more. Somehow, when you see characters that usually make you laugh suddenly in dark and dramatic situations, you're even more afraid for them than you would be for characters in an all-drama series.

Gintama-I haven't seen the movie (yet), and I wish you'd discussed the script changes in the dub. I heard the acting is mediocre, but the dialogue is hilarious, and seeing as you're a big fan of changing the script to make it funnier and more accessible to Americans, (Sgt. Frog, for example), I'd love to know what you thought about the changes in the funny parts.

The relationships in tsuritama ...Not bad for a silly sci fi show about fishing!

SnaphappyFMA wrote:

Because Gintama is, as Lord Geo says, about 80 percent silly and 20 percent serious, for me the serious dramatic arcs are very welcome as part of the series as a whole. They make me appreciate the characters more. Somehow, when you see characters that usually make you laugh suddenly in dark and dramatic situations, you're even more afraid for them than you would be for characters in an all-drama series.

I totally agree that the serious moments make the show much better, but this movie was like 80% serious and 20% silly, and I like the normal series' reverse of that ratio. I'm not saying to do away with serious moments.

Fishing you say?! SciFi?! Noitamina?! I should be watching that right now!

Oh boy. We're gonna have that discussion, are we?

1. To Kikaioh There is no Ho-yay in Tsuritama. As a proud Fujoshi, who is also well-inform in real-life LGBTQ issues, I can attest to that. The story of how Yuki eventually blossoms from his shell to become a more self-confident individual is the highlight to the entire series.

2. Kids on the Slope is a based on a Josei manga. You know like, Nodame Cantabile and Antique Bakery, both which have a gay character but they are not the focus of the series. Both shows have a great story, likeable characters, and, in my opinion, are very good shows, just like Kids on the Slope. So what if Kids on the Slope is trying to pander to us fangirls? Would you rather have panty shots of the female characters of the series or have Yurika giggle her breast toward the camera?

Besides, the strength of the series is the friendship among the trio: Karou, Ritsuko, and Sentaro. The fact that Yoko Kanno & Shinichirō Watanabe are part of this series is simply the icing on the cake. So, unless your slasher glasses are on too tight, try to be more open minded about this show.

Also, it's 1960's Japan, for goodness sake. Male friendship was different then from how American friendship is today. :/

3. Kuroko's Basketball.
Honestly, I watch it for two reasons: basketball and fan art. Lots & lots of fan art. Especially from Pivix! :3

It bothers me for several reasons but one is that it takes sweet heartwarming stories of friendship and turns it into something that about sex.

050795 wrote:

It bothers me for several reasons but one is that it takes sweet heartwarming stories of friendship and turns it into something that about sex.

Thats not very fair to yuri/yaoi fans either.

I didn't really want to have this discussion either, but I do feel the need to apologies because I obviously offended you. I'm Sorry.

SnaphappyFMA wrote:

Because Gintama is, as Lord Geo says, about 80 percent silly and 20 percent serious, for me the serious dramatic arcs are very welcome as part of the series as a whole. They make me appreciate the characters more. Somehow, when you see characters that usually make you laugh suddenly in dark and dramatic situations, you're even more afraid for them than you would be for characters in an all-drama series.

I totally agree that the serious moments make the show much better, but this movie was like 80% serious and 20% silly, and I like the normal series' reverse of that ratio. I'm not saying to do away with serious moments.

Umm, putting shows like Kaiji or Toriko aside, just how many series featuring unattractive teenage youths (male or female) are out there?

I, too, have a problem with the weakly-written females in Apollon (though Yurika has shown some depth in last week's episode),

"I'm not saying to do away with serious moments."

... and I didn't say or imply anywhere in my comment that this was what you were saying.

?? Not sure why my comment merited this response.

I do not understand the attitude that fandom's imagination ruins stories for people. That mean you can't read Arthur Conan Doyle because people like to see Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson as a couple? What about Star Trek? Fans have been slashing Kirk and Spock for decades. Give me a break.

For example, lots of characters in the show ask if Watson is gay, which could be reasonable in a modern script, but it's also winking at the fujoshi in the audience (and on the internet, so to speak).

Thank you for clarifying, Erin. What I meant was if the canon has no sexual subtext (like the original Sherlock Holmes novels, and tsuritama) than what some fans think/do with the material shouldn't keep other fans from enjoying the original story.