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NEWS: ADV Files 3rd-Party Claim in Funimation's Lawsuit

Conan-san wrote:

Technically speaking, that should totaly break that whole newco thing Sentai's been trying to pull and that would mean that they would have to throw the towel in something closely resembling a dignified manor. Course Texas is another freaking reality onto itself so whatever.

You do know that what you just said was very ignorant.

For one, the Baccano BD set sold out and they are doing another print. Why ROD? Who knows?

Fate/Zero box set 1 sold like 50K the first week and I think it's up to like 60Kish? That's pretty damn good for a BD boxset only release.

Considering there is possible money to be made in R1, have you thought that Aniplex Japan opening up a branch in the US allows them more control over their product than just simply giving the license to a US company?

If they weren't making much money already, they'd have gone under years ago.

I consider it a premium release. The quality for that show especially was way above anything else we had been given.

Now the second one needs to happen and that's just get rid of the rest of R1:
-MB, Viz, and Nozomi: too small to matter. Love them all you want, but their trickling of titles in a shrinking market is more of an irritation than a necessity because the "other two" declined them.

It understands to make good anime means to produce it, and it's trying.

Rarely does one ever hear customers complaining, because an exceptional monopoly ensures people don't know it exists.

FUNimation's role in the anime world is actually caring about anime and its fans, but that's a personal opinion.

especially when some of you simply seem to be ignoring the issues of the current R1 market, not what happened 10 years ago.

Monopolies inevitable result in lowered quality and higher prices - the postal service being the quintessential example.

If you're referring to the fact that they're hemorrhaging money, that would have more to do with them having drastically overinflated labor costs due to not being able or willing to stand up to the union(the extra costs of servicing remote locations for dirt cheap doesn't even begin to compare).

The Japanese don't want it,

The reason you don't know is because of those very brands. Ray Bans are expensive, but those 99 cent specials at Walmart are not.

It'll be much easier for a single company to take a loss on a $20,000 revenue-making title if they have 4 titles earning $100,000+ in profit.

Again, it's no secret why FUNimation owns the largest market in revenue.

Your personal bias against what you know of monopolies has left your post completely void of any reason for the bias.

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Fate/Zero box set 1 sold like 50K the first week and I think it's up to like 60Kish? That's pretty damn good for a BD boxset only release.

It's not bad, but BD's a lot more dominant in Japan than it is here. So it's actually kind of weak.

GrilledEelHamatsu wrote:

Conan-san wrote: Technically speaking, that should totaly break that whole newco thing Sentai's been trying to pull and that would mean that they would have to throw the towel in something closely resembling a dignified manor. Course Texas is another freaking reality onto itself so whatever. You do know that what you just said was very ignorant.

Statement 1) ADV should, logically, be forced to scrap the Newco loophole because they are sueing as ADV
Staetment 2) They should close down like any other company that goes bust instead of carrying on in the manor they have been
Statement 3) Texas law is bullshit.

I don't see any ignorance there.

superdry:

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For one, the Baccano BD set sold out and they are doing another print. Why ROD? Who knows?

Ok, well, I guess Baccano was a bit more in line with what people were willing to pay.

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Fate/Zero box set 1 sold like 50K the first week and I think it's up to like 60Kish? That's pretty damn good for a BD boxset only release.

It's not bad, but BD's a lot more dominant in Japan than it is here. So it's actually kind of weak.

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Considering there is possible money to be made in R1, have you thought that Aniplex Japan opening up a branch in the US allows them more control over their product than just simply giving the license to a US company?

Yes, but if they have to stream these titles, then they're already conceding that they'll be irrelevant in due time.

luffy:

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I consider it a premium release. The quality for that show especially was way above anything else we had been given.

But it's still a show based off a friggin' video game.

The sales of Fate/Zero puts it number 6 for best selling late-night TV anime in the last decade. If you think Fate/Zero numbers were weak, then all anime sells poorly.

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Rarely does one ever hear customers complaining, because an exceptional monopoly ensures people don't know it exists.

I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. People have complained about Microsoft plenty of times. That's why they get a certain sense of schadenfreude knowing that, when actually forced to compete, they end up trailing third-in this case, the console race.

GATSU wrote:

Quote: Fate/Zero box set 1 sold like 50K the first week and I think it's up to like 60Kish? That's pretty damn good for a BD boxset only release. It's not bad, but BD's a lot more dominant in Japan than it is here. So it's actually kind of weak.

"Weak?" Have you actually looked at anime sales figures in Japan? 50,000 Blu-rays would have placed that show in the top-25 for sales in 2010, in the same range as Bakemonogatari. (That includes both anime and live-action releases.) Among anime releases in 2011 only Madoka topped 50,000 units. I'd post a link to these figures, but since they're at Suki it would be suppressed. As Susan Sarandon's character in Bull Durham liked to say, "you could look it up."

Even with higher prices, I still pay less for a stamp than I do for "free market" health care and gas.

I personally think it's their continued use of oversized mail trucks which probably contribute to higher fuel costs than the competition.

A) You're comparing drastically different things(why on earth would you pay more for a stamp than healthcare or gas?)

B) Health care in the US is heavily cartelized(eg, medical licensing)

The electronics industry has been comparatively unregulated and we get increasing quality for the same nominal(falling real) price.

USPS uses smaller trucks than everybody else,

My point is that USPS costs are in line with inflation, while other non-government owned industries are about holding the public hostage with exhorbitant prices for essential goods and/or services.

Um, if someone's cutting you up, you damn well better know they have a license to do so.

And no, us bailing out insurance companies isn't why people pay an arm and a leg for them. It's because they can throw anyone they want out, deny anyone coverage, and they don't have to be held accountable for those practices.

You also get products packed together in a sweatshop which break down faster.

If that were the case, I could drive through my residential area when they take up my half of the street.

GATSU wrote:

My point is that USPS costs are in line with inflation, while other non-government owned industries are about holding the public hostage with exhorbitant prices for essential goods and/or services.

I've never felt like my computer, cell phone, games, etc. were "holding" me hostage or overcharging me. With the exception of the latter I get better prices, and in all categories some kind of increased production values.

It seems bizarre you choose the one industry that has some of the largest amounts of state intervention to make your point. It's almost like you are unaware of this. Aside from this, the USPS is heavily subsidized, is it really surprising they can keep their prices low.

GATSU wrote:

Um, if someone's cutting you up, you damn well better know they have a license to do so.

Not all procedures that doctors perform are major surgery, and I think I can make these decisions for myself. To the extent you value licensing, you can still get private licensing and certifications, the state is hardly necessary for that.