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ryuzaki11
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Lol they raided Chinese counterfeit factories? That sounds like alot of action, like it would be in a movie or CSI or something.
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DeityofDestiny
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UDE: "No OCG cards." Konami: "No TCG cards."
I think I've been playing a bit too much MGS, since the first thing I think of reading that is UDE having fully armed men at their disposal. Plus a wealth of money. |
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hikaru004
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Yes, this is business. Here's a link to one shop's prices for the R1 cards. When some cards are selling for $35 a pop, some of those collectors and shop owners are prob crying the blues now especially with that counterfeit charge. |
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ryuzaki11
Posts: 67 Location: Kanbal,Sagu. |
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I almost quit Yu-Gi-Oh! when I saw the price for Crush Card Virus: $200-$275.
I wonder though, the manufacturers don't make that money out of those expensive cards because all they really sell is packs and boxes...etc. |
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Colonel Wolfe
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This is all Konami's fault. The judge hearing the case will undoubtably rule in favor of Upper Deck. As far as the courts are concerned, a contract is a contract unless one side of the party breaks that contract.
Since Konami is the one trying to break the contract, the judge is going to look at Konami's lawsuit against Upper Deck and throw the case out because it's obviously a move by Konami to try and put pressure on Upper Deck. They're obviously being vindictive in regards to the lawsuit they filed against UD and, in the long run, Konami is going to end up making a very large payout to Upper Deck as well as being ordered to honor the contract they signed. |
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D Dubbs
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According to a list done by ICv2, in Fall 2008, Pokémon was the #1 TCG overall, and Yu-Gi-Oh! was #2 overall. Though Magic was 1st at hobby shop retailers. But yeah, Yu-Gi-Oh! has a fairly large following with both younger and older crowds (indicated by its #2 position at both mass retailers and hobby shops), so it's arguably the hottest TCG on the market. Oh, and I also support the notion of Konami and Upper Deck settling the dispute with a duel. Better yet, make it a Turbo Duel and show it on ESPN. xD |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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Would it be too passe of me to once again mock a children's card game? Should I stop referring to YGO as such in every related topic?
...nah Worse comes to worse, Konami can just send MG-REX and have it trounce UDE headquarters. And if that doesn't work, have Simon Belmont bomb the place with holy water. |
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BellosTheMighty
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I can see the headlines now: "Romanian terrorist firebombs card factory, claims crusade against 'Great Dracula of West'. OHS: 'What the f--- is this crap?'" |
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bglassbrook
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Seriously ... one company accused of printing counterfiets (or possibly too many legitimate cards) and the other with the full legal right to print as many rares as they want, but only so long as they never touch North American soil. Oughta be one hell of a match unless UDE is innocent and get trounced. So I propose a strategy where they force Konami to swap hands when all they are holding are Sosa & Jager cards. |
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ikillchicken
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The fact that something is sold to children doesn't actually change the fact that it's worth a ton of money. It's actually pretty reasonable for companies to fight over the rights to it. |
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rg201508
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at this point, being a duelist who plays this game with a certain passion, i am currently worried about the state of it. it is clear to me that konami will appear as the overall victor due to the fact tht you dont just jump out of nowhere and accuse someone of stealing frm you, which is wht they did here, and second, they own the game. right now im mentally battening down the hatches bc i believe tht konami will take the game over in the end. the real thing tht we as players must ask, is wht will happen when they do?
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VDZ
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Actually, I disagree with you on this part. I've played both Magic: the Gathering and Yu-Gi-Oh! (and a couple of other TCGs). Magic requires a far greater minimum amount of skill to build a good deck (a bad player can't build a good deck, great players can build great decks) compared to Yu-Gi-Oh! (a bad player can build a rather good competitive deck, great players can build great decks). However, in the game itself, the way luck and skill affect the result are completely different. -In MtG, you are not very likely to be completely screwed by bad luck, although this is possible. During the game, your long-term luck is a very important factor to winning the game - if you keep drawing two-mana creatures for six turns, you will lose, no matter how good you are or how good your deck is. Victory in MtG is mainly decided by the deck, with playing skill and luck as less important factors. A competitive deck will almost always win from a casual deck in MtG. -In Yu-Gi-Oh!, luck is a lot more likely than in MtG to screw you over. A game can vary greatly depending on random chance. However, in this great variety of possibilities, the decisions you make during the game are extremely important, much more important than in MtG. Although the risk of losing because of bad luck is greater than in MtG, your playing skill also makes a huge difference. Victory in Yu-Gi-Oh! is decided by deck, playing skill and/or luck, depending on the situation. I have managed to win many duels playing with the 'inferior' deck (usually my casual deck vs. a random competitive deck), mainly because I made the right decisions during play. A fun thing to do after winning a duel is playing another duel with your opponent's deck, with your opponent using your deck. In MtG, it is quite common for the previous loser to then become the winner. In YGO, I rarely lose a game against an opponent I won against after switching decks (the exceptions being when my opponent had a downright HORRIBLE deck). tl;dr: Yu-Gi-Oh! requires as much skill as Magic: the Gathering, but in different ways.
Win. |
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Top Gun
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No, I'm fully aware that the franchise is worth a veritable crap-load of money, but I can't help but be amused over that weight of a franchise that is (at least to my non-target-audience eyes) completely disposable trash. 
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Unit 03.5-ish
Posts: 1540 Location: This space for rent |
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Totally OT, but I heard there was a YGO card that was an homage to Metal Gear. Can someone at least tell me which card it is? I've been wondering about this FOREVER.
Oh, and if Konami used the KONAMI CODE or the Castlevania III HELP ME cheat, UDE would be soooo screwed. |
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dm85
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All we can do is wait and see. There's no real way of knowing who's telling the truth. Both companies look out for #1 so no doubt they're going to slander each other...
Also..let's not insult the card game people. As anime fans we should know better. |
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