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NEWS: Yu-Gi-Oh! GX in 2005


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minakichan





PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:27 pm Reply with quote
Hey, that GX guy is kinda cool...Too bad he only plays DM and doesn't dish out evil punishments (one would think)

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I close with three questions: Did anyone who actually reads the manga notice that they used to call the card game "Magic and Wizards" up until sometime during the "Death T" storyline, and suddenly at the end of the story, it was called "Duel Monsters"? Secondly, has the manga indeed ended in Japan? Finally, has anyone heard or confirmed that Viz will be skipping ahead in Shonen Jump (USA) to the "Memories Arc" (past Duelist Kingdom, Battle City, Doma Saga, and the KC Grand Prix, the latter of which has not even aired edited on TV yet) and releasing the rest of the story as graphic novels exclusively starting with "Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist Vol. 1" (really volume 8)? I hope Viz realizes this is a stupid move, but I'm not holding my breath for them to change it.


1) Yes ^^. Takahashi Kazuki originally intended for the Magic and Wizards to be a one-shot (like all the other games); unforutnately, tons of fans were intrigued by this and begged him to basically give it its own story (to which Takahashi agreed, thus holding commercialism over art and losing MY respect). Now, he couldn't use the name "Magic and Wizards" basically because he actually named the game AFTER Magic:The Gathering (it was a spoof of Magic), so, searching for a new name, he came up with "Duel Monsters."

2) Yes, it ended just recently at Volume 38(?). Yeah. I know because I bought volume 37 (or whatever the second to last one is) this summer in Taiwan and I was uberly pissed when I found out the last volume came out when I came back to the States. (-_-)

3) Yes; it was even announced in the Jump pages. You really won't miss much anyway...(-_-) Now, I MAY be wrong on this, but I believe that the Doma Saga and KC Grand Prix were actually NOT in the original manga (one of those make-up-a-new-arc-as-you-wait-for-the-mangaka-to-catch-up things). Could be wrong.

W/e.

Oh, and is Pokemon Hoso actually a seperate, unrelated show to Pocket Monsters or what? I thought they were just reruns, but I guess not...
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Necros Antiquor



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:41 pm Reply with quote
minakichan wrote:
Now, I MAY be wrong on this, but I believe that the Doma Saga and KC Grand Prix were actually NOT in the original manga (one of those make-up-a-new-arc-as-you-wait-for-the-mangaka-to-catch-up things). Could be wrong.

Yes, that was an error on my part. I just looked into it more and those two sagas aren't in Takahashi's manga (and neither is the Noa Arc). I should have guessed when you have a concept like "the three Egyptian gods are all-powerful! oh wait, no they're not, this can kick it's ass." That's the gist of the Doma Saga, apparently, with all those dragons and that "Seal of Oricalcos". That's one of the problems I have with the second series of Yu-Gi-Oh: they pull stuff from nowhere. I'm waiting for someone to come in with a fourth Egyptian god out of nowhere. They already made an eighth Millenium Item out of the blue for the American Yu-Gi-Oh movie.

Well, now I know why Viz is skipping ahead to the Memories Arc. Since that's the last story, they're probably hoping to finish off the manga in Shonen Jump USA and start a new manga, just about the time Yu-Gi-Oh will get unpopular with the kids. Still, I must admit, from the quick glances I've seen of it, it does look more compelling than the previous two arcs. I just hope that the tankoban get released uncut and un-Americanized (i.e., making sure it's Pegasus J. Crawford, not Maximillion Pegasus like in America). And that they keep the original Egyptian-esque names for the Memories Arc. And provide some catch-up for the new stuff that may have been mentioned in the manga they're not putting in SJ. Maybe I'm asking too much, though, this is Viz we're talking about.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:32 pm Reply with quote
I think they're just kind of assuming a lot of their readers have seen the anime, though 4kids kind of screwed up the fact that malik wanted to kill the pharoah for killing his father, not take over the world with the god cards. Rolling Eyes Though it's not really that important in the grand scheme of things, it just kind of makes it seem less silly.
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The egyptian arc is perdy cool. I've read scanlations. The ending's pretty interesting.
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Crimsonmon



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:38 pm Reply with quote
minakichan wrote:
Oh, and is Pokemon Hoso actually a seperate, unrelated show to Pocket Monsters or what? I thought they were just reruns, but I guess not...


Hoso started off as a small three minute short showing a day-in-the-life of the Slowing from the second movie, was created to promote the DVD release of the movie in Japan.

Jump forward several months, and the second Hoso is aired on TT. This time it features Mewtwo, and was the only Hoso to be dubbed for years.

Several months after that the third (and best IMO) Hoso was shown. This time none of the characters from the main series appear, as it focuses on the G/S/C characters.

When Pokémon Advance Generation started, new Hosos started showing more regularly. The first two focused on what happened to Misty and Brock after they left the group. From this point on Misty is made into the main character of Hoso, which eventually leads to her apperence in AG.

After that the Hosos became lees regular, but focused more on tying into AG's plot. (Such as showing how Jessie and James met)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:27 pm Reply with quote
Some clarifications:

-Yes, GX is the same universe as the original. It concerns a kid named Yuki Judai who goes to a boarding school for duelists (yes,really) called Duel Academia or something like that. Yugi makes a cameo in the first episode when Yuki bumps into him and Yugi gives him one of his old cards. We don't see Yugi's whole face though, so it's hard to tell how much older he is. Anyway, everyone in the school looks suspicously like members of the original Yugioh cast-there's a tough kid who looks like Honda/Tristan and a wimpy kid who looks like Bakura-there's even a female versian of Jonouchi/Joey! I don't know if these are supposed to be the children of these charecters or if the designers are just lazy, but there you go. Of course, this whole setup is just an excuse for them to play cards constantly, and that's pretty much what they do. Whoopee. The latest episode introduced a villain who seems to have Yugi's old Millenium Puzzle, so there's hope for a plot, but this show is still so bad it makes the original Yugioh look like high art.

-I think the reason they're moving ahead to the Memories arc is because it's huge-it's something like 120 chapters long. At the rate Shonen Jump publishes it'll take about four years to get to the end, and by then the kids who are into Yugioh will be interested in new things, like girls. Best to cut to the chase, I guess.

-Pokemon Hoso is basically a bunch of side stories involving the various supporting characters that aren't regulars in the show, like Gary, Casey, Misty, etc. I saw one episode a while ago, and it struck me as being much better than the main series-it doesn't seem stuck in the pattern of having Team Rocket try to steal Pikachu every week. Considering that almost every episode of Pokemon proper features a new character that never shows up again, there's alot of potiential for stories there.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:38 pm Reply with quote
As long as we get the entire manga completely uncut, I'll be happy. Well, uncut except for the card names, which I can overlook. (Though SJ promised, I believe their second issue, that important cards, like the Egyptian Gods, would be left with their original names. That means "Slypher the Skydragon" would be left with the Egyptian name "Osiris", which is infinitely cooler.) And it's interesting to know that Marik/Malik wanted to get back at Yugi for killing his father, not for being pharoah, and that he never wanted to take over the world with the God cards...though I bet he'd do that after he killed Yugi...
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Fubuki Tenjoin



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:54 am Reply with quote
Kewl!

Is Yu-Gi-Oh GX end in 2005? I really don't want to that Anime cry.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:52 pm Reply with quote
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This is the end of Yu-gi-oh.

* claps*

Thank god its over...

Question


Do you know how much work goes into yu-gi-oh!? With the game it take a lot of time an effort. With the card game it makes loads of money though with the cards or other murchandise which is alot and well thought of, the games sell well mainly because they want the rare cards that come with it and that's a good way of selling your product by giving free things away. Some little kids might get it and there friends want the same cards so there parents go out and buys the game hence making more money.
The anime isn't that bad it's getting darker and darker. All though the first few episodes are a bit boring but yet when it hit's battle city it gets better and the rules are re enforced. All though the program wasn't to the t and some cards were wrong, there were still a good series all though the deck master rules were boring, But with the conclusion of battle city it still had me wanting more. The movie was crap it had all the same stuff the episodes had but it lacked Surspence and i think that's wot the film needed.

People who slag off Yu-Gi-Oh! to me it means that there jelous of someone who had the decent thing to do and make loads of kids happy. At the end of the day don't slag off something that people like, or it will happen 2 u?
sprry for my bitchiness on my first post but i hate people slagging things off
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:10 pm Reply with quote
Zeon wrote:
The anime isn't that bad it's getting darker and darker.


Darker does not necessarily mean better. Case in point, the blazing piece of angsty garbage that is Rurouni Kenshin: Seishouhen, as compared to infinitely more cheerful and infinitely more well-crafted titles like Azumanga Daioh & School Rumble.

Zeon wrote:
People who slag off Yu-Gi-Oh! to me it means that there jelous of someone who had the decent thing to do and make loads of kids happy.


Funny, to me people who "slag off" Yu-Gi-Oh! strike me as the kind that don't like that particular sort of show or game. They aren't knocking it because they're jealous of a money-squandering franchise, they just aren't the type that are into blowing away $100+ on something they deem substandard for reasons ranging from "there are better card games out there" to "the show is shameless, poorly-written, product-whoring garbage."

It's all subjective. Just because you happen to like it doesn't make your view "correct," and the same goes to people (like me) that find it highly distasteful.

Zeon wrote:
At the end of the day don't slag off something that people like, or it will happen 2 u?


Why? Just because my opinion differs from that of a frothing fanboy's, I'm not allowed to speak on the matter? The faults in that logic should be pretty obvious right off.
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Amibite



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:35 am Reply with quote
So much misinformation it makes me want to throw up.

1. GX takes place 10 years after the Ceremonial Battle.

2. GX has no relations from the previous series

4. GX is a TV Tokyo exclusive, Takahashi had as much to do with it as Toriyama did GT

3. GX sucks

4. It was called Magic and Wizards throughout the entire manga, the anime was the one who needed to call it Duel Monsters for copyright reasons. (Comics can get away with a lot more than shows can, hense why Zoro was Zoro in SJ until the dub aired and then was forced to use Zolo or face lawsuits)

5. To the people saying why is it called YGO when Yugi isn't in it: The correct term to address the series is Yuugiou or Game King/King of Games. It makes much more sense

6. Takahashi used the cards because the fans thought it was a creative way to keep the same game around and still offer varity. Many manga-ka were forced to do things like this like Kishimoto (Naruto) Oda (One Piece) and Toriyama (Dragonball)

7. The anime is much darker than the manga ever was, and also has a much deepr story and fleshed out characters.

8. The movie was made for the US for the dub only by, so it automatically sucks and causes plotholes.

11. That reminds me, the dub sucks.

12. Yuugiou is not a marketing show, less than Hikaru no Go, anyway (Even if HnG's manakga admitted he wanted to start and fad and the anime has go-lessions after every episode)

And it's a good thing Dark Yugi and co are not in GX, they're too powerful. They can bend time, reality, and are omnipotent gods by the end of the series.... but GX focuses on a card game so I doubt that would even matter to TV Tokyo.


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