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Charred Knight
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The only acceptable person who could match Nozawa is obviously the one and only Mike Tyson I mean look Nozowa already makes Goku sound like Mike Tyson, why not have the actual Mike Tyson voice Goku. Also include a scene where Goku bites of Vegeta's ear and threatens to eat Trunks. Seriously I don't think I have seen a more overrated VA preformance than Nozowa's Goku which makes him sound like a dying cat. I tried to watch the new Jump Special but I stopped watching after 5 minutes because I couldn't take listening to Nozowa's acting for another minute. I can watch 4kids One Piece, and Cloverway's Sailor Moon, but I can't watch Nozowa's screeching. |
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penguintruth
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I'm sorry you prefer Goku sounding like a constipated Superman to the way even Toriyama envisoned him sounding. Nozawa captures Goku's personality perfectly from childhood on into adulthood. |
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Charred Knight
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Its better than sounding like a dying cat. |
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penguintruth
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Nope, "dying cat" is better. Anything is better than Sean Schemmel's generic superhero voice. At least Peter Kelamis bothered to capture some of Goku's childlike charm. |
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Charred Knight
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I'll be blunt neither the Japanese version or American dubs where that great. Whether it was Nozawa playing three major characters (making it so that Gohan, and Goten are completely unremarkable in the Japanese version) or it was the fact that Funimation was just starting its in house dubs neither was very memorable.
Though I do regret Dragonball GT not starring Goku, Gohan, and Goten, instead of Goku, Trunks, and Pan. I mean who wouldn't want to see a series in which the three main characters are voiced by the same person. |
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theoriginalbilis
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What's funny about is that most DBZ dub fans consider:
Nozawa's Goku = ENTIRE JAPANESE CAST. Wrong-O! I mean, just because she does the main character's voices, doesn't mean she is representative of the cast as a whole. There are deeper voices for the original cast... I mean, look of the Japanese VAs who voice Vegeta, Freeza, Cell, Mr. Satan, Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Roshi, Yamucha, Kaio, and the remainder of the cast... All of these voices fit perfectly. (Not to say Nozawa's voices don't fit, because her Goku is the stuff of legends.) It's rather disrespectful when someone says that the Japanese version sucks just because of Nozawa's performances, when they haven't even listened to the other voices. Don't get me wrong, I think most of the dub voices are decent too, but at least get a good idea of what the original sounds like before you diss an entire voice cast based on one character.
It's funny and oh-so hypocritical when you say that, considering Chris Sabat voices approximately 50% of the main dub cast (Vegeta, Piccolo, Yamucha, Kami, Jeice, Burter, Recoome, Shenron, Karin, King Piccolo, Grandpa Gohan, and even the Sea Turtle). And the majority of his voices sound far too similar... Last edited by theoriginalbilis on Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:55 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Raven Shinobi
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I hope that Aya Matsui, who was responsible for the series composition and screenplay for that disastrous GT won't be involved in this project.
Though I would definitely get this when they release the R1 version -depending on the overall quality of this remake- I think I'm going to keep my old DVDs. I love all those 10 episods of powering up 
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penguintruth
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To be fair, Charred Knight said he wasn't thrilled with Funimation's dub, either. Sometimes I've been dissatisfied with all available voices for characters, too. |
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CCSYueh
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It's still fun & I was around 43 when I watched it for the first time. I have vague memories of seeing Gigantor, Kimba & Speed Racer back in the 60's. DBZ I didn't see until it was on CN this century.
Bravo! Hate to break this to you, penguintruth, but it's fairly common in Japan to keep a child hero's VA on the character even when the character matures. Since a lot of little boys are played by chicks & some bishonen are played by chicks, it's not really a big stretch. Nozawa was ok as kid Goku & I was used to her by the adult version, but Ryo Horikawa's Vegeta was way better (He was also Shun Andromeda/Saint Seiya). No to mention Daisuke Gouri (Mr Satan) is almost always a riot. Takeshi Kusao's gone on to play his share of psychos (Mao/Code Geass, Krad/DNAngel, Saonji/Utena), but he still does his share of shonen hero types. Mayumi Tanaka has gone from Krillin to Luffy. (I still say Luffy has some of that evil kid Krillin to him. He was a pretty bad little boy-buying his teacher off with porn, some of the stuff he did to Goku.) Norio Wakamoto, Ryusei Nakao, Hirotaka Suzuoki, Miki Ito, Tohru Furuya, Sho Hayami, Shigeru Chiba...There are a lot of really great vets in that original cast. However, it's the same thing they did with Seiya. They re-cast the newer Hades chapters with the cast off the drama cds, although I don't know if it was related to Suzuoki dying, or just a desire to appeal to a modern audience with more popular VA's Last edited by CCSYueh on Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:00 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Michi
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This is pretty darn cool. I got super nostalgic and happy watching the Jump Festa special.
It also makes me a little sad, considering Hirotaka Suzuoki's (voice of Tenshinhan) recent passing. Aside from that, I'm excited to hear Hiromi Tsuru, Ryo Horikawa, and others reprising their roles! |
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Charred Knight
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Chris Sabat voicing half the cast was one of the reasons why that season sucked. Personally Dragonball Z was a decent adaptation, it wasn't awful but it never blew me away since by the time Freeza arrived the typical filler scene was Vegeta screaming for like ten minutes, and except for the "last time" music the Japanese background music was never that great either. |
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penguintruth
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CCSYueh, Toriyama himself chose Nozawa. If he didn't want her to continue be Goku, he would have said something. And his childlike voice was perfect for his personality. Most people a few years ago seemed to accept this. I guess DBZ has been off the air for too many years.
Goku is like a child. Keeping Nozawa around to do his voice as an adult made sense. Why fix what's not broken? And it's not as though the voice didn't change at all. Nozawa's inflection changed. Charred Knight, it's true, the DBZ anime, much like One Piece, or really most fighting shonen adaptations, tend to spend entirely too much dragging out things that occured in a short space of time in the manga. In some cases it works, in others it doesn't. It becomes difficult to bare half an episode of reaction shots from irrelevant side characters and extended shots of clouds moving overhead. Clearly, they padded the hell out of the DBZ anime. Not that the manga wasn't, mind you, but it went so overboard in the anime adaptation. It's no great tragedy, though. It was just something you sort of dealt with when you watched. I have to disagree about the music, though. The original orchestrated music was pretty excellent. Almost too good for such a simple action program. |
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Charred Knight
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I never really understood this huge emphasis on Goku being this innocent pure person. Obviously he was an idealist but he never came off like he was a child trapped in a man's body. |
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penguintruth
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Upon being launched into space, Goku thought it got dark really fast. And he couldn't understand Princess Snake's advances whatsoever. We're talking about a guy who, just before marriage, thought marriage was a sort of food. He didn't recognize Hell when he was in it. Many like to say this is the result of stupidity, but it's the result of Goku having been raised away from society in the hills by an elderly man. He never recieved any schooling. This, combined with his innate strength (meaning that he can afford to be carefree since normal things can't harm him) means that he's incredibly naive and carefree. Sort of the ultimate country bumpkin, not quite stupid, but just very gullible and child-like. |
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Vuwazy
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I am grateful that you can shut your ass up. You aren't excited and don't have respect for this show. What the hell are you doing in here then? Nothing but pouring disdain. You're a hater. Charging up 10 episodes in a row, that's not real. A power up scene never went that long.
Okay I get it. You're a DBZ hater. Anti DBZ biased. I stick a tongue at you. I've seen you do this many times in DBZ related threads. You can stop now. It's not amusing.
Nozawa does her role for Goku terrificly in certain stretches. She pitches the tone that suits the mood Goku is in. Her acting takes some time to get used to. Goku's voice is probably not what you would expect if you're a first timer on the Japanese version. Nozawa has done the role from the beginning to end. She got better doing adult Goku's voice over the years. As for the dub. Peter Kelamis was outstanding. The best people I thought that did the voice for Goku for any of the english versions were the ones from the ocean dub. Goku is carefree and naive through most of the series history. Though when he is an adult it isn't as apparent like it is in earlier episodes.
I don't think it would. Nozawa does Goku, Gohan, and Goten. The father and two sons. All three of the son family. Changing one of them with another voice actor would not make it special. It will be sort of weird IMO. |
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