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Fall 2012 anime list.

ikillchicken wrote:

Uh...yeah. For whatever Steins;Gate did well (and it did do some things quite well) it also had some pretty glaring problems.

Oh? Do tell. And I hope it's not the same old tired arguments about the time paradox inconsistencies.

Riddley wrote:

ikillchicken wrote: Uh...yeah. For whatever Steins;Gate did well (and it did do some things quite well) it also had some pretty glaring problems. Oh? Do tell. And I hope it's not the same old tired arguments about the time paradox inconsistencies.

He's not the only one that has problems, once again, I suggest you check out the series thread. I can't speak for ikillchicken but to me the problems has nothing to do with nitpicking the "science" of the show.
Basically, the tone, scripting, and pacing was simply quite bad. Exclusively whimsical at times, switching to completely dramatic at other times with little semblance of a middle "normal" ground. It took seven entire episodes of otaku pandering (cross-dressing shrine "maiden"! Maid Cafe! Fat Otaku with a loli fetish!) and exhausting examples of "Kyōma Hōōin wackiness" to get back around to the plot set out in the beginning and actually sending a D-mail and having the first Reading Steiner since the first episode. Not to say what was done in this section was unimportant, but that it was badly presented and plotted in the most game-like information gathering manner possible. Because, even though they spent all this time without actually dealing with plot, except in the most minor ways, it also failed to adequately deal with any depth of character development for anyone but Kurisu and Rintaro. Especially failing spectacularly to give a viewer a reason to care in the least for the hollow moe-shell of Mayuri- which seems like it should be pretty important!

I'm quite happy with the time travel story and mystery aspects and consider them to be the show's saving grace (I have the show rated "good"). It's the script that seems to be less of a story adaption of the game than a dictation of the game play of the visual novel that has me confused why its so revered.

I can't speak for ikillchicken but to me the problems has nothing to do with nitpicking the "science" of the show.

It took seven entire episodes of otaku pandering (cross-dressing shrine "maiden"! Maid Cafe! Fat Otaku with a loli fetish!) and exhausting examples of "Kyōma Hōōin wackiness" to get back around to the plot set out in the beginning and actually sending a D-mail and having the first Reading Steiner since the first episode.

Not to say what was done in this section was unimportant, but that it was badly presented and plotted in the most game-like information gathering manner possible. Because, even though they spent all this time without actually dealing with plot, except in the most minor ways, it also failed to adequately deal with any depth of character development for anyone but Kurisu and Rintaro. Especially failing spectacularly to give a viewer a reason to care in the least for the hollow moe-shell of Mayuri- which seems like it should be pretty important!

I don't like people acting like it's a given fact that a show as highly rated and popular as Steins;Gate is such a piece of crap, which is how it came across in his statement.

For whatever Steins;Gate did well (and it did do some things quite well) it also had some pretty glaring problems.

Bakuman!