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NEWS: Funimation Licenses RIN: Daughters of Mnemosyne


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Jarmel



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:54 pm Reply with quote
vashfanatic wrote:
captainbanana wrote:
...it is basically a softcore hentai instead of an anime series.


Yup, which is why I lasted two episodes. This series may have developed a nice plot, I don't know, but the constant, vicious brutalization and objectification of women (lesbians tortured for your entertainment!) was nauseating. I'm okay with some pretty gruesome shows, but only if they tend toward the tragic rather than the titillating. This was just vile filth. Feel free to license this, feel free to buy it, but I'd never date a man with this in his collection.


Lol and you thought those two episodes were bad? It 's gets much much more extreme. This show was extraordinarily hardcore, easily on the levels of Elfen Lied, and had a pretty bad plot throughout. The plot twist that the main villain was spoiler[ a hermaphrodite] was horribly done and just stupid. I might pick this up for the loli porn, I'm a sick man I know, but that's a big maybe. This is a niche title at best and I have no clue how Funimation is going to market this.

On the bright side atleast there is no reason now for people not to get Strike Witches.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:04 pm Reply with quote
Jarmel wrote:
This show was extraordinarily hardcore, easily on the levels of Elfen Lied, and had a pretty bad plot throughout.


Ah, Elfen Lied. Now there's a show i feel really ambivalent about. On the one hand it works really well as horror and has a sort of elegiac feel to it. On the other hand, one suspects it was created entirely for the "cute girls....THAT KILL!" demographic, and the ending was just lame.

But wow, if Mnemosyne gets worse than spoiler[a male "angel" eating a woman while she tries to have sex with him], then I'm glad I quit...
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Jarmel



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:13 pm Reply with quote
Yea I kinda was ambivalent about Elfen too. Also that scene was one of the lighter ones in the show, three main ones stick out. spoiler[ A throne made out of horny women, that lady being tortured forever in the castle and seemingly getting off on it, and the rape scenes with Mimi.]

However just so everybody is clear, if you are even remotely squeamish about blood, rape, sex, loli, torture, BDSM, and extreme violence then this show is definitely not for you.

I don't mind blood and dismemberment but spoiler[a woman going through a airplane jet] is a bit too much for me.
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zanarkand princess



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:30 pm Reply with quote
Wow. Now I'm just starting to think that Funi is really brave. How they plan on marketing it I have no idea but they are probably going to be straight forward about it. They might leave out the loli part though.

Oh and I know I'm the last person who should be saying this since I don't like the idea of lolicon at all but.. this came over and KNJ couldn't? Um ok Anime dazed
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:31 pm Reply with quote
Monster in a box wrote:
This also isn't School Days.

School Days, I would buy about 10 years before Mnemosyne. Actually, that's the wrong impression. I enjoyed School Days, particularly the subversion of the harem genre.

El Cazador was fine, just not my thing. This is, I'm sorry, just fail. It was my thing, I tried hard to admire it, and at the beginning it had hope. But, nope. I forced myself to finish it just in case, and that was time lost.

I'll possibly reach annoying heights, and say again, Higurashi 2? In fact pretty much anything that was mentioned multiple times in the Seto thread?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:36 pm Reply with quote
Personally, I thought that the plot tied together really well. I also thought that the series looked really good visually speaking and I don't understand why anyone would complain about that. The aspect of this series which is going to turn people off (or on in some cases) is that it is extremely graphic. It's very violent with lots of blood (I wouldn't say that it has as much blood as Elfen Lied, but I think that it's more graphic with the other aspects of its violence). It also has sex scenes -- albeit short ones -- where they show just about everything that can be legally shown of the female body in Japan without censoring anything.

I think that the show is definitely worth watching if you're willing to put up with extreme graphic violence and sex scenes (or if you're actually looking for that sort of thing), but if you're at all squeamish about that sort of thing or want to avoid it, you should avoid this title with a 100 foot pole. I confess that I don't understand complaints that the plot didn't make sense since I thought that it did. It's one of those shows that has an overarching plot that is resolved in the last episode or two but which is peripheral to the rest of the series.

You get to see Rin and her acquaintances at different points of time many years apart dealing with problems in that time period. Some of the characters are in multiple episodes, and when they're not, there's frequently someone related to them who is. Each episode is separate and yet each is still connected in spite of the long spans of time between most of them. The overall plot is a bit bizarre, but it does tie things together and explain them fairly well. Also, while each episode has a distinct problem that they need to deal with, the fact that the episodes are 46 minutes really allows them to flesh them out properly in a way that they never could have done with normal 24 - 25 minute episodes.

Really, I don't understand why there's such a negative reaction towards this series in this thread. I thought that it was fantastic series. The ratings for it here at ANN are also good, though they are a bit across the board. The only real issue I see with this series is that it's extremely graphic and that if you want to avoid that sort of thing, this series is not for you. Otherwise, I'd highly recommend it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:43 pm Reply with quote
I totally loved that show. Well, maybe the last episode was a bit of a disappointment but really, I can't see why there's so much bitching about the story here. It's twisted, yes, but so is the OVA as a whole so it worked out for me.

It's definitely a day one buy for me. (as long as it isn't censored Evil or Very Mad )
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:43 pm Reply with quote
Kalessin wrote:
I think that the show is definitely worth watching if you're willing to put up with extreme graphic violence and sex scenes (or if you're actually looking for that sort of thing), but if you're at all squeamish about that sort of thing or want to avoid it, you should avoid this title with a 100 foot pole.
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Really, I don't understand why there's such a negative reaction towards this series in this thread. I thought that it was fantastic series. The ratings for it here at ANN are also good, though they are a bit across the board. The only real issue I see with this series is that it's extremely graphic and that if you want to avoid that sort of thing, this series is not for you. Otherwise, I'd highly recommend it.


I have watched (and thought to be quite good, even if I never want to watch them again) both Gantz and Shigurui, and read Berserk, Blade of the Immortal, and Eden: It's An Endless World! avidly. I am not squeamish. I have a stomach of steel.

What's wrong about this series is not that the violence is graphic, but that's pornographic. It's the voyeuristic abasement of women that made me ill. I actually was very interested in it after the first episode, but once I realized what the plot involved spoiler[(turning the strong and interesting lead character into the sex-slave of cannibal angels)], I dropped it then and there.

And as for the good ratings here at ANN, even the worst series on this board get some idiots saying it's a masterpiece. Frankly, I sometimes suspect those are done by plants.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:01 pm Reply with quote
Jarmel wrote:
Yea I kinda was ambivalent about Elfen too. Also that scene was one of the lighter ones in the show, three main ones stick out. spoiler[ A throne made out of horny women, that lady being tortured forever in the castle and seemingly getting off on it, and the rape scenes with Mimi.]

However just so everybody is clear, if you are even remotely squeamish about blood, rape, sex, loli, torture, BDSM, and extreme violence then this show is definitely not for you.

I don't mind blood and dismemberment but spoiler[a woman going through a airplane jet] is a bit too much for me.


That was bad, but I thought that the point when spoiler[ that doctor lady pierced Rin head to toe while she was naked, and then ripped off her lady parts via a piercing with a chain attached ] was worse. They tried as hard as they could to make the overt sexuality work within the story, but none of their explanations made up for stuff like the aforementioned spoiler[ Throne made of naked, writhing, women ] or the rape scenes that added nothing to the plot.

If I had to give something as the closest thing anyone might have seen that compares to Mnemosyne, it would either be Elfen Lied (as was previously mentioned) or Bible Black (sans the need to censor things since no naughty bits were animated). The only time I've ever felt dirtier is probably when I read chapter 1 of Battle Royale.

Actually, you know what, I know exactly what crowd this is targeting; Anyone that enjoyed Kite.

I can stomach just about anything as long as there is a good plot involved. Mnemosyne does not have a good plot. It could have been an interesting look into the lives of immortals but it was as shallow as a kiddy pool with regards to that. They were so caught up with the -Sexual- lives of immortals (like how spoiler[ They get so bored that they have to come together and have orgies to keep it interesting]) It was almost as if they thought they were making a Sci-Fi series, what with the spoiler[ Future in which people get high on Matrix-style computer headset things, and have sex with robo-hookers. Oh how futuristic! It's about time someone explored the future of sex -_- ])

I don't have anything more to say about Mnemosyne. It's vile, in the way that a Saw film is vile, and the audience that loves that kind of thing will love Mnemo. I'm just trying to warn away any Moe/Shonen Jump/Etc loving people that might be reading this.


(all of this is from someone that liked Elfen Lied. Elfen Lied had decent action, and interspersed bouts of Moe and Comedy. The only time I laughed during Mnemosyne was when it was revealed that the cop guy actually got to spoiler[ have sex with Rin ])
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:25 pm Reply with quote
This series never interested me, but ... WOW. I never thought it would ever be licensed, given what I've heard about it.

Yikes, I'm in utter shock.
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Unholy_Nny



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:42 pm Reply with quote
I'm shocked.

I liked it, even if it was highly disturbing and offended me on every level.

But, still, seriously Funi? This is borderline snuff porn.
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What's wrong about this series is not that the violence is graphic, but that's pornographic. It's the voyeuristic abasement of women that made me ill. I actually was very interested in it after the first episode, but once I realized what the plot involved spoiler[(turning the strong and interesting lead character into the sex-slave of cannibal angels)], I dropped it then and there.


Well, I can certainly see where you're coming from on that one. Most of the episodes didn't include much to do with spoiler[the angels though]. However, they were definitely there and there are plenty of times in the series when women are treated quite poorly and thoroughly debased by villainous characters. Though, honestly, I agree with captainbanana that the scene in the first episode when

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spoiler[that doctor lady pierced Rin head to toe while she was naked, and then ripped off her lady parts via a piercing with a chain attached.]


was far worse than spoiler[anything to do with the angels]. For the most part, I would expect that anyone who could stomach the first episode wouldn't have a problem with the rest, but I guess that that's not necessarily the case. In any case, it should definitely be stressed that this show is not for the faint of heart.

It actually would be quite interesting to see what they would have done had they seriously toned done the graphic violence and sex. Portions of the story could easily survive it while others are inherently graphic such that they would probably have to make some major plot changes.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:49 pm Reply with quote
So, they're branching out into softcore porn now eh? Laughing

I'd buy this, in fact I was contemplating importing the British version but now I'll wait. I watched it and was one of the few who actually liked it apparently. It's disturbing as hell though and extremely violent and full of sexual content, so potential new viewers would have to get past that. The story was good though and I liked the characters a lot.

I also seriously thought this would never get liscensed by anybody but one of the hentai distributors.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:05 pm Reply with quote
captainbanana wrote:
Other than that, it's mostly a long history of censoring things much more mundane and harmless than bloody lesbian S&M that makes me think they probably will.
When have they ever censored any of their anime releases? Examples please. (And I mean on DVD. TV doesn't count.)

Descent123 wrote:
If Funi censored this I won't buy the DVDs. This is actually the first time since forever that I'm interested in a Funi release!
I think any fear of censoring is unfounded so no worries friend.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:08 pm Reply with quote
News wrote:
Supernatural "hard-boiled science-fiction action"
Oh snap! Where can I sign up!
News wrote:
from ... Noein head writer
Except I was underwhelmed with Noein. Confused


Still, sounds like it has potential.

I doubt this will be edited. People tend to forget the blow job in Blue Gender, the rape in Basilisk, the blood in Death Frenzy, etc. Have edits occurred, sure, but they have also shown that they can release a mature series as well. Usually edits are done to fall in line with bigger plans than just a DVD release.
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