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NEWS: New Series Said to Be Revealed in Gundam Ace Manga Mag

Panon wrote:

Underwhelming doesn't even begin to describe this.

My only hope is that they focus on the mechs and battles, and not on trifling character bickering. I just hope they cut out all the love story because that's what contributed negatively to 0083. Make this show for the hardcore fans, but with a higher budget than something like Pailsen Files. Then it'd be awesome.

I don't agree with you about the love story contributing negatively to 0083, but I agree that they need to keep the angst where it belongs (in a piece of garbage like 00, or Seed).

walw6pK4Alo wrote:

Panon wrote: Underwhelming doesn't even begin to describe this. My only hope is that they focus on the mechs and battles, and not on trifling character bickering. I just hope they cut out all the love story because that's what contributed negatively to 0083. Make this show for the hardcore fans, but with a higher budget than something like Pailsen Files. Then it'd be awesome.

I don't agree with you about the love story contributing negatively to 0083, but I agree that they need to keep the angst where it belongs (in a piece of garbage like 00, or Seed).

That the main character is 32 shows a high probability that this will NOT be another angsty, romance driven soap opera in a gundam disguise. I hope they are going back to a more 0083 art style as well. If clamp is involved again, I am going to be angry.

My only other fear is that they won't keep the mechs grounded in the futuristic reality of Gundam. I prefer the relative grittiness of 08th MS Team to the ridiculously overpowered mechs of Double Zeta, Seed, etc.

@wellness - They did Double Zeta after Zeta, as well as Char's Counter Attack. There isn't really a huge gap between the end of Double Zeta and CCA, but they certainly could slot something in there. I wouldn't be surprised if they did do something in that time frame for the next anniversary (35 year anniversary I guess).

captainbanana wrote:

I don't agree with you about the love story contributing negatively to 0083, but I agree that they need to keep the angst where it belongs (in a piece of garbage like 00, or Seed).

I'll agree with your assement of SEED, but Gundam 00 is scores better than low-rent mecha porn like Gundam 0083, which had insufferable characters and "plot".

[We'll have to agree to disagree about that. 0083 is basically the origin story of the Titans from Zeta, and in that regard, it's very important to the canon.

00 on the other hand is the latest in a long line of Bandai related bishonen travesties.

captainbanana wrote:

[We'll have to agree to disagree about that. 0083 is basically the origin story of the Titans from Zeta, and in that regard, it's very important to the canon.

First of all, while it does explain where the Titans came from, that's hardly what it was about. Zeta Gundam, produced a decade before it, didn't need such a backstory for them. It was already explained in that series. And the story the OVA provided was overdone. That the Federation would allow both a nuking of their naval review and a colony drop is ridiculous. There's a difference betwen incompetence and just being completely insane. Either the nuking or the colony drop would have done the job on their own.

Second, the side story OVAs aren't proper canon. There are too many inconsistancies between them and the main UC TV series canon. Ground-Type Gundams during the OYW, for instance, in 08th MS Team. 0083's MS that are more advanced than suits later in the continuity. The Alex in 0080. They may take place in the UC, but they're sort of alternate UC stories.

Third, 0083 had a ridiculously empty rehash of the original Gundam series, only there weren't any likeable characters.

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00 on the other hand is the latest in a long line of Bandai related bishonen travesties.

Gundam has historically been full of bishonen, from the very beginning.

captainbanana, Zeta Gundam did mention that the Titans were formed to hunt down rogue elements that threatened the Federation, most particularly Zeon remnants.

As for the Federation's incompetence, the Federation in CCA merely underestimated Char's resolve. In 0083, it's a bit much to expect that after having their naval review nuked that they wouldn't immediately mobilize all remaining forces to obliterate the Delaz Fleet. Even if you believe that the higher ups wanted to use this as an excuse to form the Titans, it's largely unnesssary to the canon.

Anyway, for the people who dislike teen pilots, the main character is decidedly older, so maybe there won't be complaining about that.

Secondly, anyone else kind of wish they could have left the Zeon-Fed period alone for the most part?

I seem to remember a specific scene in 0083 where spoiler[ Jamitov and Bask prevent reinforcements from being sent, or something along those lines. It's been awhile since I've seen it, but I'm fairly sure they expressly mentioned that Jamitov was planning to use the disaster at the review as the basis of the Titans. It's not so much that "I believe" it, but rather that it's what actually happened. I realize that the feds thought Char was surrendering his fleet, but what kind of idiots wouldn't have the entire space fleet ready just in case he was planning a repeat of Lhasa? The answer is the federation, and it's for the same reason that them not stepping in to stop the Delaz fleet sooner is plausible. ]

I don't think anyone has any problem with teenage characters. Teenager characters have been a staple of Gundam since the beginning. It's when you make them angsty little ****s that people get annoyed. Amuro and Camille's level of angst was about a 2 on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being a tie between Kira and the kid from Destiny, and 1 being Bright (otherwise known as Mr.No Angst McSlappy Pants)

Well, if he weren't in the military he'd probably be in jail for child abuse, that's for sure.