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NEWS: Japanese Animation Blu-ray Disc Ranking, July 9-15


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Mesonoxian Eve



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:17 am Reply with quote
RyanSaotome wrote:
Just want to point out that people should look at the actual sales numbers, not the ranking for these things.

Fear mongering. There's no way to verify where the sales numbers are coming from.

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For example, PapaKiki didn't even sell 3k copies, so its just looking better in a weak batch of titles that released during that week. It was the worst selling of the new anime that released during that week.

These lists should never be used as an indicator for sales, success, or failure. They're inaccurate, and the inaccuracy is intentional.

This is an industry which keeps their mouth shut on everything. Do you really think they're going to brag about sales?

It's also important to remember not all transactions can be counted (hence the intentional inaccuracy).

Only the distributor knows the true number of sales, and I've yet to see one ever tell us how many units actually sold.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:39 am Reply with quote
So the number and the ranking of these things are fake? Then what's the point of looking at them anyway?
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Annf



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:11 am Reply with quote
Mesonoxian Eve is presumably referring to the fact that these numbers come from stores participating in sales reporting programs (Oricon, Soundscan), so they don't show the full count of every copy sold, since not all copies are sold from stores that report sales.

It's reasonable to assume that a title reporting 40k/volume really did sell a lot more than one reporting 4k/volume, but when it gets down to ranking a 3.5k/volume title vs. a 3.7k/vol title vs. a 3.9k/vol title, there's a good chance enough uncounted sales exist that the ranking is wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:36 am Reply with quote
What are you talking about, Eve? Oricon is one of the most legit sales number companies in the world. They cover every form of entertainment sales in Japan.
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Mesonoxian Eve



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:39 am Reply with quote
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So the number and the ranking of these things are fake? Then what's the point of looking at them anyway?

Annf is correct. Not fake, inaccurate.

As for the point: advertising.

It's more effective to get people to be more interested in a title if it appears the "general market" favors it.
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Fencedude5609



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:41 pm Reply with quote
Mesonoxian Eve wrote:
RyanSaotome wrote:
Just want to point out that people should look at the actual sales numbers, not the ranking for these things.

Fear mongering. There's no way to verify where the sales numbers are coming from.

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For example, PapaKiki didn't even sell 3k copies, so its just looking better in a weak batch of titles that released during that week. It was the worst selling of the new anime that released during that week.

These lists should never be used as an indicator for sales, success, or failure. They're inaccurate, and the inaccuracy is intentional.

This is an industry which keeps their mouth shut on everything. Do you really think they're going to brag about sales?

It's also important to remember not all transactions can be counted (hence the intentional inaccuracy).

Only the distributor knows the true number of sales, and I've yet to see one ever tell us how many units actually sold.


The sales numbers are the best indicator of success/failure that we can get, the fact that they are not 100% accurate is unfortunate, but largely meaningless.
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superdry



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:20 am Reply with quote
Mesonoxian Eve wrote:
dandelion_rose wrote:
So the number and the ranking of these things are fake? Then what's the point of looking at them anyway?

Annf is correct. Not fake, inaccurate.


While sales figures will never be 100% accurate, Oricon probably compiles the most comprehensive sales list from stores. This is a link to all stores that submit sales data to them - LINK.

That is a lot of frigging stores and probably all the stores that the majority of people will buy from. What's crazy is that YesAsia submits sales data to them and they arent even a Japanese company!
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