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OniTasku
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:03 pm
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Hm, given the timing of this announcement, and from what I've heard regarding recent chapters, I'm assuming the manga is close to ending and that the anime should (hopefully) cover the entire series.
The fact that Nagahama Hiroshi is directing this anime has me floored; I mean, the fact this manga is getting adapted into an anime was quite a shock in itself. The manga isn't exactly explicit in the way you'd normally expect. There is excessive violence or even much physical violence at all.
This series is psychological. It's about manipulation, about self-destruction. Thanks to Vertical, this series was opened up to me, and I've really been digging it (and I highly recommend anyone interested in the premise to go try out the manga!). Will be quite interesting to see how the anime is handled -- and of course, who will be attached to the adaptation.
Nagahama is an amazing start, and I'm looking forward to hearing about further staff, studio and seiyuu. Seriously, who are they going to get for Nakamura? Oh man.
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scineram
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:18 am
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Sounds like Fapping Master Kurosawa, which is my favorite. So will watch. Maybe even buy the manga first.
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Crisha
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:24 am
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Oh man, I've only finished reading the first volume of the manga, and it has successfully disturbed me to the point of me questioning whether or not I want to spend money to continue reading it. If I could check it out from the library, I would. The series has low rereadability for me considering how much it makes me squirm (which normally isn't a bad thing for me because I love horror movies/stories; however, this creeps me out in a bad way), and with a full docket of things I want to buy I don't want to add on to the pile something I figure I'll likely only read once.
I want to continue to support Vertical, but I think there are series from them I'm more interested in collecting.
I'll probably watch the anime. Because hell if it isn't a gripping suspense at least.
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djhot
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:23 am
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>love comedy
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Surrender Artist
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:53 am
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willag wrote: | Oh man, I've only finished reading the first volume of the manga, and it has successfully disturbed me to the point of me questioning whether or not I want to spend money to continue reading it... The series has low rereadability for me considering how much it makes me squirm (which normally isn't a bad thing for me because I love horror movies/stories; however, this creeps me out in a bad way)... |
That's a bit foreboding. I have become intrigued by this series, but it seems tricky to pin down what makes it so unnerving. I don't watch much horror because it doesn't seem to have the right effect on me, except for the original version of The Haunting, which was the only film that ever gave me nightmares when I was a child and still creeps me the Hell out to this day. I can, however, find some satisfaction, I reproached myself for having initially used, "enjoy," psychological, emotional and ethical squirming; things that make me uncomfortable about the experiences and implications of what I'm witnessing. (Much of the appeal of Now and Then, Here and There or, to draw upon another Vertical title, The Book of Human Insects, is, to me, being confronted with the deep, unrelenting awfulness of the world and characters) Does it stray to far that way or is it just too cruelly, yet meaninglessly exploitative? (Perhaps an emotional or psychological analog to torture porn)
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danilo07
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:39 pm
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Quote: | Does it stray to far that way or is it just too cruelly, yet meaninglessly exploitative? |
The disturbing part comes as side affect of exploitation of nihilistic minds that these characters have,it also may come from the fact that the series is incredibly dynamic.Without even knowing the story gets stuck in your mind without ever losing its grip,it is the only thing I have been thinking about these two days.I might even skip anime just so I can marathon it.
Also I have no idea what that guy was talking about ,I did not find the 1 volume disturbing at all.
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Crisha
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:30 pm
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danilo07 wrote: |
Quote: | Does it stray to far that way or is it just too cruelly, yet meaninglessly exploitative? |
The disturbing part comes as side affect of exploitation of nihilistic minds that these characters have,it also may come from the fact that the series is incredibly dynamic.Without even knowing the story gets stuck in your mind without ever losing its grip,it is the only thing I have been thinking about these two days.I might even skip anime just so I can marathon it.
Also I have no idea what that guy was talking about ,I did not find the 1 volume disturbing at all. |
Girl.
Uncomfortable is probably a better word. The one girl provides for a majority of it (forcefully removing his clothes, dressing him in his crush's gym clothes, blackmailing and assaulting him in potentially abusive and/or sexual ways, and just having a general "want to watch the world burn" attitude). The author talks about being bullied by a girl like that when he was younger, which I guess is why it feels so creepily realistic. I don't know, just constantly digging deep into the negative, perverted aspects of the two main characters with such an honest eye just makes me uncomfortable.... which is supposed to be the point, so the book is effective at doing so.
"The story gets stuck in your mind..." Hah, yeah, that's one way to put it.
It's not that I completely dislike the story, I just don't know if I want to buy the rest because I don't see myself wanting to sit down and read it again. The stories I want to reread have engaging characters that I like and admire and keep me attached despite already knowing the story. Not ones that dig into the depths of some hormonally-developing youths who exploit each other's perversions.
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danilo07
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:26 pm
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Uncomfortable is probably a better word. The one girl provides for a majority of it (forcefully removing his clothes, dressing him in his crush's gym clothes, blackmailing and assaulting him in potentially abusive and/or sexual ways, and just having a general "want to watch the world burn" attitude). The author talks about being bullied by a girl like that when he was younger, which I guess is why it feels so creepily realistic. I don't know, just constantly digging deep into the negative, perverted aspects of the two main characters with such an honest eye just makes me uncomfortable.... which is supposed to be the point, so the book is effective at doing so.
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Yeah it is brutally honest,maybe the reason why I did not find it so uncomfortable cause I was a victim being sexually bullied by female.Who although did not strip me ,she would beat me up without regret,she would force me into sexual relationships with older females and she also liked telling me how worthless I am.
But I couldn't go away from her because of some illogical reason.
Manga later reveals the reason why MC stays with her and when thinking back that might have been my reason too.
What is fascinating is that manga continues to exploits the mind frames of these characters and actions they take.That is when it gets disturbing for me,cause although I did suffer from same thoughts I never took an action based upon them ,these characters did.Just seeing the consequences of those actions sends chills down my spine.
I understand why a lot of people will not like this manga ,it is one those that you have go through just so you can totally appreciate it.
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Crisha
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:38 pm
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I'd read it if my library had it, because I do want to know how it ends. I'm just hesitant to buy.
That's why I'm happy an anime is being made. Hopefully, Crunchyroll will pick it up.
And I'm sorry about your circumstances, danilo07. I hate bullying in any form - having grown up being bullied and watching my sister get bullied - but hearing about situations like yours just make me disgusted even more.
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Surrender Artist
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:14 pm
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Thank you for that exchange, it was illuminating and cemented my interest in the manga and series. It seems that it comes from something deep within the creator and resonates meaningfully with people who have had comparable experiences, which I think it requisite for anything that deals in troubling subjects. If a work that deals with uncomfortable or disturbing subjects sincerely, rather than sensationally and exploitatively, it's usually something I will appreciate. I guess that It plays into my morbid desire to understand horrible things.
It sounds, danilo07, as though you had an awful experience. I was, mercifully, only really bullied for a brief time in sixth grade, but to the extent that I sincerely can, I sympathize. It's loathsome work by loathsome people.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:39 pm
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Plenty of H-doujin have covered this premise. This is nothing new and compared to them is probably quite mild.
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