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TokyoGetter
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Anybody else notice that easter weekend was, overall, pretty crappy as far as movie-going goes?
I almost stuck around to catch this for a dollar, but I was hungry and took off. I'm neither here nor there on it... I don't have any raised expectations or lowered expectations, I just thought it'd be interesting to see in the theater. This thing will make it's money back and slide into direct-to-dvd sequel land. |
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Navak
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I think Zac just means that you want movies that do well, even if you think they're stupid or suck, because that injects money into the entire process which is a good thing.
Having capital, even if it is made from something stupid, lets studios take risks/make new things/etc... |
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TheVok
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How would more money for 20th Century Fox be of any use to anime fans? 20th Century Fox doesn't produce anime. As for folks citing reviews, well, those don't really have anything to do with the box office. The number one movie, Hannah Montana, generally got very poor reviews ... almost as bad as Dragonball's. |
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Navak
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Are you serious? Even if you just limit it to properties for sale it helps animation studios get more money when they license rights. That is ignoring all sorts of other factors such as getting more exposure for the source material in general and the various tie-ins like toys or possibly even co-funded projects. |
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GATSU
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Yueh:
And there are a lot of people who liked the pair since before your daughter was born. That's really who the movie was for first. That's why it worked, and that's why DB: E failed.
Lucy's 9 and finds herself on her own at the beginning of the book.
It's about a kid running away from home!
And that worked fine in the cartoon. The Jungle Book LA movie sucked for probably the same reason the DB: E movie sucked. If that guy who directed Babe was allowed to work on it, though, it'd probably rock.
He still ran around unsupervised.
Um, actually... 
Well, if I paid $18 for a ticket, I'd expect the best damn movie ever, too, regardless of my personal feelings on the source material.
Um, it's got a crappy IMDB and RT score, with or without Zac.
No doubt, but you have lower expectations from those, since they're DTV.
Those are sequels to good, or at least decent, movies, though. This is the first movie. It should sell the series.
I doubt Dr. Slump was doing horribly, when it lasted for four years, and had a tv show and some movies, and even a cross-over story with DB. No, Toriyama likes the same MA stuff as Hara and Buronson, and there even used to be a pic of him with Jackie Chan online somewhere. [Hell, Jackie wore an Arale-chan costume in one of his own movies!]
A modern take on Journey to the West, though, hence all the MA.
Well, Chow's movies are more like throwbacks than spoofs, so I think his take on DB would work better.
But did you give Battlefield Earth a chance? 
Hon'ya: No such thing as bad publicity? I'll take a Razzie over the usual "all anime and manga are child porn", I guess. Oh, and I just found out that Jamie Chung's first gig was "The Real World", which makes me wonder why she's even given work. Vok: No, we do need live-action adaptations for the same reason Marvel needed the X-Men and Spider-Man movies: to expand the audience. But we need good adaptations. Getter: There's no way Shueisha will let FOX do any sequels. Even if they do, they probably won't work with the studio on other projects for a long time. |
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Cliffjxn
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It would have to make over $100 million to make back all the money spent on production and promotion. So far it's made less than $50M. It's going to drop off the charts in Asia soon and the West isn't far behind. Most likely it won't gross more than $60 or $70M world wide. It isn't going to make it's money back during it's cinema run. |
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fighterholic
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Did you even read what she said?
Well then let's hope that you don't go to Japan expecting "the best damn movie ever." Because $18 is what you're going to pay for normal movie ticket prices over there regardless of what kind of movie it is. |
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GATSU
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fighter: Yes, but Zac don't live in Japan. And she said Lucy's baby-sat, but that's clearly not the case for a chunk of the book.
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CCSYueh
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Hells bells, I remember running away when I was in kindergarten. I just didn't get past the field across the street. My cousins ran away a lot, I just don't remember their age. Lots of kids make it as far as a friend or relative's place before they get talked out of it (or the friend or relative calls the parental unit) HOWEVER--they were running away from parental units. Goku crushed his.
I enjoyed that one. It most assuredly didn't suck. There were some good actors in it. My daughter loved it also.
So go to a fricken matinee like I did. In fact the $9 I paid was actually more than the $5.50 I usually pay for the 10:00 matinee at Ultrastar (which is also a pure digital theater chain). However, I earned a free movie ticket with my Regal rewards card so DB:E was free or whatever I use the ticket on will be free (or I can view it as half-price for both). You have some inflated ideas, dude. There are no guarantees in life. Just because you pay $6 for a burger doesn't mean it can't be poorly made.
RT? Rotten Tomatoes? I always thought that was a joke site. IMDB is just the opinions of it's users not unlike the anime scores here. Forsaken has 5 stars at IMDB & it sucked bad. Lost Souls has 4 1/2 stars at IMDB & it sucked. The Sentinel has 6 stars & it sucked. Pumpkinhead only has 5.9 stars & it's a pretty damned good little horror flick. Although Sorority House Massacre was pretty terrible & only got 2.9 stars. And that's what I mean by truely horrible pix. You cannot say DB:E is as bad as The Thing That Couldn't Die, The Brain That Wouldn't Die, or Plan 9 From Outer Space. There is a lot of dreck out there that define "terrible movie", trust me. Everyone here seems to hate anything Keanu Reeves does.
Sorry if you misunderstood my wording. I did not in any way, shape or form say Dr Slump was doing poorly. I said DB was intended to be a gag manga like most of Toriyama's other stuff such as Dr Slump, but DB didn't so so well at first during that monkeyboy & pretty girl seeking magical items so girl can have her wish for a boyfriend. The martial arts stuff kicked in after the wish for the panties & Krillin was added as Goku's rival under Master Roshi. At that point we sort of lost Puar & Oolong as the story focused on martial arts.
Toriyama likes cars.
Kung Fu Dragonball is horrifying to conceive of.
I paid a buck for a VHS tape of it, but I've never talked myself into watching it. I did see a lot of really horrid b&w B movies made in the 50's because that's all they had to air in the way of horror movies when I lived in Utah in the 1970's. I thought this site had a good review for the DB:E game? There's the other angle you've forgotten--marketing. THey might make enough on that stuff to push this flick over into profitable. |
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nick0991
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This news makes me all warm and fuzzy.
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GATSU
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Yueh:
Plenty of movie adaptations have kids fighting parents.
It didn't suck for a Tarzan movie, but it sucked for a Jungle Book movie.
Not sure if that's an option in Japan.
Well, considering I just paid too much for Jack In the Box a few days ago, I'll acknowledge your point. But I am still a customer, and expect some effort on the part of the person I'm paying money for a particular product or service.
A 4-5 score usually means something sucks there.
You're right. It's worse than those films. :P
Shonen manga tends to rely on fight arcs in general. But I'm guessing the reason Toriyama changed formats is because there was nothing else for Goku to do while waiting for the dragon balls to return a year later.
It's about the same level of an average Tenkaichi Budokai fight, so that's doubtful.
They won't, because there's better stuff out there, namely the original material. Sort of like how SF IV is ironically what made fans too busy to care about that Chun Li movie. Anyway, someone on IMDB leaked Ramsey's script. |
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ZashikiWarashi
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I hate you. I didn't see this coming and now unexpectedly laughing has given me hiccups. |
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ZashikiWarashi
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Because being the anti-cool on the internet takes balls. Bad film is bad, and the majority agree that it's bad. You being annoyed by that is silly. People that think it's bad because it was completely removed from the original dragonball universe are entitled to that opinion, and people that think it's bad because the story was almost as awful as the acting and the fight scenes are entitled, too. If you like the movie, just come out and admit it. Nobody here wants to go to your cutesy little online journal to read your bitching and moaning when we can read it here. Stop trying to discredit people that didn't like it or weren't interested in it because it was so blatantly bad WITHOUT watching it just from watching the trailers. Do you know what's more annoying than somebody that takes bashing a film too far? Somebody that's the anti-basher because it makes them feel cool or something. Either that or you REALLY enjoyed the movie, which quite frankly, puts your taste in question. There's nothing wrong with somebody calling Hollywood out on butchering a franchise trying to make a quick buck. It being an adaptation doesn't automatically make it bad, but it's a BAD adaptation. If we all had your mindset, I can only imagine what kind of movies we'd be subjected to considering the movies we're already subjected to. I can see it now.. Lord of the Rings: 21st century edition. Frodo's a typical suburban high school boy that suddenly stumbles upon a magical cell phone. Throw a cameo by Barrack Obama in there and this thing will be a goldmine. It's not bad till you see it, right? |
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_Earthwyrm_
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I went to see the film with my younger brother on Saturday. It was, we decided, pretty good apart from Bulma, and Yamcha, and Piccolo, and Chichi, and Goku, and Piccolo's henchwoman, and that weird bit where they were in Mordor fighting Uruk-hai for some reason, and the final fight, and the fueled-by-angst interpretation of the Oozaru, and the plotholes, and those bits which just plain contradicted earlier bits. And Yamcha and Bulma.
Strangely enough, we thought the best bits were all in the first third - where Goku was chillin' out with his Grandpa and it was being all high-schoolsy. There were even a couple of good (though not exactly original) gags. As an adaption, it was terrible. As a stand-alone film, it was merely pretty bad. But we enjoyed it anyway, and now we have a new phrase ("Cheese and Rice!", optionally followed up with "Fried my 'nads!") which means "The line just spoken in the film that we are watching was awful." That line was worth the price of admission. |
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TheVok
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Yes, I'm absolutely serious. Anime studios don't need live-action licensing cash. They're only going to produce animation that can in itself turn a profit. Why is more exposure for the source material in general a good thing? A perfect example is the Dragonball property; it's already been as big as it ever needs to get. This movie didn't really pose any way to make the source material more profitable. And toys work better modelled off of anime characters than off of live-action performers. Indeed, toy sales are already a huge source of revenue for anime studios. |
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