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NEWS: Labor Group: Animators in Their 20s Earn US$11,600 a Year


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Ktimene's Lover



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:54 pm Reply with quote
Even piracy may or may not have a factor in this, animators at this category should be earning at least 3.5 times this amount.
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zalbik



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:02 pm Reply with quote
Isn't the cost of living sky high in Japan?

What would the equivalent salary of someone in Japan have to be to be comparable to someone in the USA earning $50k a year? I would really love to know.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:05 pm Reply with quote
Good grief. Do they derive some kind of nourishment from their passion? Less than USD1000/month is mind-boggling.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:14 pm Reply with quote
how is it possible to live off of that?
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:32 pm Reply with quote
Well they also work 16 hour days at times and they also only get sunday off.
They also sleep at the office and eat there.

I dont even think they get a chance to spend there money honestly..
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:45 pm Reply with quote
AND AMERICAN KIDS STILL WANT TO BECOME FAMOUS ANIMATORS IN JAPAN
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:50 pm Reply with quote
if people didn't need to have a lot of rooms and fancy things, it's very possible to live on that
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Beltane70



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:54 pm Reply with quote
zalbik wrote:
Isn't the cost of living sky high in Japan?

What would the equivalent salary of someone in Japan have to be to be comparable to someone in the USA earning $50k a year? I would really love to know.



That would be around 5 million yen if you figure at 100 yen to the dollar.

I don't know if it still holds true now, but a few years ago I remember reading an article that said that the average Japanese auto factory worker earned 11% more than his American counterpart.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:16 pm Reply with quote
Kougeru wrote:
if people didn't need to have a lot of rooms and fancy things, it's very possible to live on that

You'd have to look out for travel and utility bills though. Then again, I've heard animators only have enough time out of work to sleep, so perhaps it's the case that their living requirements needn't be high.
Of course, saying all this is a little uncaring of me. If anyone can correct me, please do.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:31 pm Reply with quote
Well according to the Statistics Bureau the 2008 yearly income for a One-person household was 3.29 million Yen. At current exchange that is about $34,500. So basically if that's the average, young animators are way below it, staffers in their thirties are still below it, and veterans basically right at it. Still as jobs go it doesn't sound like their is very much room for personal growth. I wouldn't go into a job that in 30 years time I will be making essentially the national average.

The only thing I would like to see is what kind of hours these employees are putting in each week to earn these wages. If this is only a part time job to them then it might not be that bad, but if this is what they earn full time it's not so good.

Edit:
Changed the numbers, was reading wrong column.


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:33 pm Reply with quote
Do tiny, naked, winged shota boys really pick up the slack and finish the job should an animator fall asleep at her desk, or is the accompanying illustration a lie?

giascle wrote:
AND AMERICAN KIDS STILL WANT TO BECOME FAMOUS ANIMATORS IN JAPAN


I thought most of the kiddies who say they want to be a famous animator in Japan actually only have "ideas" for anime (to paraphrase Dirty Harry, "Everybody has one") and/or they only want to do character designs at most and they're not particularly interested in doing the grunt work.

They'd be the ones cracking the whip.


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Analog_Now



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:38 pm Reply with quote
Wow, with a salary like that no wonder animators are becoming extinct. Their salary is to low to even live off in Canada I wonder if in Japan it's the different.
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Big Hed



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:49 pm Reply with quote
Kougeru wrote:
if people didn't need to have a lot of rooms and fancy things, it's very possible to live on that


Yeah, I found a site which covers basic costs of living in the Tokyo wards as of 2006, and the figures make it believable -- for that time period, anyway. Japan is being crushed by the recession, so the prices could probably use an update in many cases. Either way, it's bare bones.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:57 pm Reply with quote
Wow! I make about twice what most of these guys make and I work in a warehouse. Its pretty impressive what they can do for making such meager wages.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:02 pm Reply with quote
I'm not usually one to side with unions. I find them to be parasitic leeches that do everything and anything to hurt the company while protecting even their most worthless members, but this is nuts. You can't live on twelve grand a year. I wish this particular labor group luck.
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