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vincent iii
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I feel this might actually jump-start moving eroge distribution much more online. That way it goes around the EOCS and reduces cost by sacrificing packaging.
How come its only guys? Plenty of women have rape-fetishes or the fetish to be dominated. That's why BDSM is one of the most profitable fields in erotica currently. Its not like Yaoi doesn't have rape either and last time I check Yaoi's main market is females, not males. Last edited by vincent iii on Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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dewlwieldthedarpachief
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Good point. I think that in addition to that nobody seems to be willing to demonstrate that the games are actually bad is good reason to think that most of this is knee-jerking.
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TatsuGero23
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So what's the deal with guro and lolicon games then? Are they next? If not then shouldn't they be?
I'm kinda courses about the "why now" aspect too. I think the Rapelay games and what... Battle Rapers or something? They've been out for a while like 2003-2005 era so what took them so long? Or what exactly sparked this? Either way do really care if these games stay or go but just curious about the logic behind it all. |
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vincent iii
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I think Lolicon already has some bans. I wouldn't be surprised if Guro gets hit next, but I really hope these bans will stop. While I cannot stand Loli or Guro, I can't force my moral views on a country that's on the other side of the planet. Yeah Rapelay has been out forever lol Battle Raper really isn't a rape game, despite the title. Its like Soul Calibur + "My Final Attack is Making Love to You" |
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zalas
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Have you played Studio e.go!'s Kagura series of games? 
Although, Yamamoto's new company, Debonosu, is producing a new game along similar lines, and she doesn't think it'll be affected. Perhaps it's because the player doesn't commit the acts of rape, but rather that the enemies that the heroines lose to commit those acts? |
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Valetina
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I'm glad that they banned those disgusting games. I also don't care if the banning will or won't stop them from producing that filth. Just happy that they did something about it.
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vincent iii
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Banning did nothing but promote Rapelay and move the product on to other providers. This could be seen with the torrents of Rapelay skyrocketing after the bans were first talked of and the physical copies will probably now be highly sought and become collector items. Not bad for a 3-year old game that most likely has been collecting dust in stores. |
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daxomni
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I can't wait until you're old enough to read the newspaper and are shocked to discover that there is such a thing as violent rape.
"Just to see what it was like." I'm confused. Nothing in your post explains how someone who finds abusive fantasy role playing so detestable ended up actually playing a game that was apparently built from the ground up to make them completely sick. You didn't bother to read the synopsis? You didn't look at the cover? What part of this equation is your responsibility? From the sounds of it, you're surprised and disappointed that you weren't protected from your own curiosities.
You don't say? So this wasn't the first time you got suckered into playing one of these awful games?
Excuse me? Do you have anything to back up this claim? Nothing I've ever seen had anything resembling rape or quasi-rape.
Just like there may be studies that explain why some people who play these games claim they didn't enjoy any of it but played it anyway. Last edited by daxomni on Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:25 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Blood-
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I think this comment misses the point. Expressing revulsion at a game that simulates rape scenarios is the normal response of a healthy psyche. It doesn't matter that a real person isn't being harmed in a video game - it's the idea behind the representation that is disturbing. |
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vincent iii
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Expressing revulsion at anything someone finds immoral in their own moral code is natural. Real Rape = Immoral. Rape Fetish between Consensual Adults or Drawings = Fine I do agree that Rapelay is, for any better words, really f'ed up. I've played the game and uninstalled it in the same day. The content was something I didn't find enjoyable and it failed in what a eroge is supposed to do, be erotic. The gameplay sucked too but thats beside the point. Just because it doesn't agree with me doesn't mean I ban it for everyone else. You can't just ban everything that isn't vanilla. Many people out there like sometime different and as long as they aren't hurting someone its fine. Last edited by vincent iii on Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:41 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Tenchi
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I take it that this won't apply to works produced by independent parties outside that industry group?
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dewlwieldthedarpachief
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I think your response misses the point; amidst a sea of people who probably aren't psychologists asserting what the healthy state of a psyche should be it's important to remember that none of you have been willing to back that up beyond saying that you find it distasteful. That isn't grounds for making an informed decision. I'm with you if there is something of substance against this content but as of now I have no reason to think it's any different from other simulated fantasies. But then again, maybe you're incapable of thinking about that. |
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vincent iii
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Correct. Currently is is only a regulation inside of the EOCS. This does not affect any other Rating Boards or Independent-Released things. |
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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To me, the issue is not that they've agreed to stop making rape games, but this unspoken (or maybe spoken?) correlation between playing a game and then acting out game elements in real life. This is the slippery slope we've seen many times before.
Maybe someone has done a solid study that shows that people who play rape games are more likely to rape someone than if those same people did not play rape games. That is, maybe someone has done a study that shows that rape games make someone more likely to commit an actual rape, but if so, I haven't heard about it. Yes, there are a lot of people out there with very disturbing interests. However, as long as they keep those behaviors to themselves (or one another in a consentual manner), then I really don't think it's any of my business. Since at the moment, I don't believe that playing a rape game makes a person more likely to commit rape, I don't think that such games should be banned. |
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daxomni
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So Dr. Blood is here to evangelize about his new invention, the thought crime. I wonder what sort of background he has that permits him to speak in such absolute terms. |
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