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Teriyaki Terrier
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Same here, I too have read Vampire Knight, just to see what its all about. Yes it has pretty art, but what about a solid plot? Twilight is one of those ideas that soundss cool in theory, but once you read the story, you realize you wasted time you could be doing something more productive. |
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Wyvern
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I don't know why people are acting like Bleach somehow "beat" Watchmen. Watchmen was high on the charts because of the movie, and it managed to stay on top for three months after the flick came out, to boot. Now, inevitably, the intrest is dying out because the film has been out for a while. That's all. Watchmen was going to fall from #1 eventually no matter what. Bleach just happened to be what was selling when it did. It's silly to imply (as the headline does) that one caused the other.
And anyway, keep in mind that Watchmen was published TWENTY-THREE YEARS AGO. For a book to spend nearly a year at number one over two decades after its release, movie or no movie, is one hell of an achievement. Put in perspective: can any of you honestly say that you think Bleach #27 will be the best selling comic in the year 2032? |
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littlegreenwolf
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*continues to stare in shock*
Well, Watchmen needed to lose the momentum it had but still... BLEACH? Wtf?  I fourth the shock? And no, I'm not saying Watchmen is THE best comic book out there (I am more akin to Sandman or V for Vendetta) but it's just sad that it's... Bleach. You can argue as much as you want at how great Bleach is, but when it gets down to it Kubo Tite can only wish to be as thought provoking, political, philosophical, and downright dirty and as Alan Moore's little finger.
Just a shame it took a movie to put Watchmen in the mainstream. |
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BlackJaded
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The one thing that Bleach is better from all other shounen's on it's good taste and making a great manga from the making. |
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Lemoncookies23
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Haha, that's awesome. Go Bleach! (Watchmen means nothing to me.)
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teh*darkness
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Wow, it's hilarious how many people are taking this as "the man" saying that Bleach 27 is better than Watchmen. I'll second what someone else just said, the Watchmen bubble that came with the movie burst, and the release of Bleach 27 just happened to coincide with that. No one in the industry is saying one is better than the other, though everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
For the record, I _still_ need to pick up Watchmen, since I loved the movie, but I also love Bleach, and don't understand how people will follow the series and complain that it goes up and down constantly. I just plain love the series, though I will admit that Kubo breaking away from the Ichigo vs. Ulquiorra fight for some 8 months or so was really annoying. In re-reading the older volumes (those currently being released in the US), I'm starting to notice lots of things that have been hinted at for a long time now that still have not been addressed. Makes me wonder if these are all loose threads that Kubo has forgotten about, or if he has plans to tie everything together at some point. Whether or not he does will ultimately determine whether he's a hack, or a halfway decent storyteller. |
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Animehermit
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>.> be prepared to be flamed Its not the fact that the watchmen movie boost to the graphic novels sales wore out, its the fact that bleach and watchmen are even in the same sentence, in the same news story, hell on the same website, thats what offends people. Thats how good Watchmen is.[/url] |
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Mr. Toto
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Tooootaaally blown out of proportion. A comic is at the top of the charts for almost a year (decades after its original publish date) and you're upset because it was dethroned? What--did you expect it to be the #1 best selling graphic novel for all time? I've got news for you. Watchmen is good, but it's not that good.
It's not like anyone is saying that now Bleach volume 27 is the top comic in terms of content or whatever. But Bleach has the cool factor; there's no denying that. While he may not have the greatest plot, Kubo's got an eye for style. |
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SongstressCela
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I have, thought it was absolutely horrible. Pretentious, overblown, self-important. One of the worst graphic novels I've read in recent memory, and the movie was, on top of that, not only one of the worst I've seen this year, but one of the worst I've seen in my entire life. That said, this is awesome news. I'd be happy no matter what dethroned Watchmen. The fact it was Bleach is just icing on the cake. xD |
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jdnation
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This isn't so unusual. Watchmen's time has come and gone. It was revolutionary for its time and is still a great read. However there's more interesting things out now for new comic readers. Also I doubt Bleach will stay on top for as long as Watchmen anyway, so there's no reason for anyone to get butthurt over Watchmen moving down the list a tad, it had to happen someday...
I must also second that the movie wasn't that great. I'm a fan of the book but the movie was disappointing. |
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Adacus
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Or have no taste all.
You should most likely re-read it, to see what you missed. Watchmen has a great amount of detail, and is very complex story and its themes are not that easy to spot. But if you hate the very personality of the book, aw well its your taste. It seems the American manga market has spoken however........
I see.
Just like its shame a better Anime adaption of a mediocre Manga brought it to mainstream. This makes me go into more wonderment, of what would happen if the Monster anime debuted on Adult swim. Okay it would get lower ratings then Bleach off course, but still....... The manga market in America has spoken. It seems this countries interest in titles first have to be revitalized when one watches a animated adaption of said Japanese comic, then their familiarity with it causes them to take interest. Yeah. Combined with their internet popularity, and their television exposure, have become popular. There are other titles that haven't or have been published, that easily beat the shit out of Watchmen in terms of quality Nausicaa for example, Which is perhaps the best manga off all time can never reach those charts. I've read many, many, many, many, manga's by the way. |
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bahamut623
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Guys, SHUT UP already. It's just a sales chart. Watchmen is 20+ years old, and had a boost of interest because of the movie. But come on, you guys are acting like it was completely knocked out of the charts, and like they're saying "Watchmen is garbage, all hail Bleach".
I love both of them, and they both have their merits. Watchmen is influential and has a great story, but it can also be dull and dry. It's certainly not for everyone, so don't act like people who don't see the genius in it are morons. 
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zanarkand princess
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Well look at that. The snobby comic elitists came out.
Anyway good for Bleach. It may not be the most deep thought provoking thing ever but you know Watchmen is over two decades old. Would everyone feel better if Evangelion beat Watchmen? |
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The Xenos
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Yeah. It's pretty damn impressive that a 22 year old book could maintain that number one slot for so long, especially since it's movie did just ok at the box office.
Of course it's also maybe a sad statement of the industry that a 22 year old book stays up there for so long. Plus the anti- American sentiment in some posts is somehow still surprising to me. I thought people had grown up beyond that. Plus I'm not sure if Bleach and Naruto, even if best selling, really represent the best of manga. Of course the same could be said of US comics or films. Hell, Transformers 2 is the best selling movie of the year and one of the worst reviewed.
Ha! 42nd Street Borders: Manga women's breasts draped across every shelf, every display, littering the aisle. Was offered shojo love and shonen love, but not American comic love. Top selling American comics; like coke in green glass bottles, they don't make them anymore.
I dunno. Bleach is that bad. Then again, to me, All Star Batman is kinda so bad it's good bad. "Outta the way, sp**m bank." |
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arachneia
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Fourthed. Bleach has run its course, and Kubo is a hack.
Alan Moore didn't approve of the movie. Don't lump it in the same category as the graphic novel. And whatever you may have thought of the original, it is still a damn sight more intelligent than Bleach. The fact that you're applauding a crappy shonen's monetary triumph over something whose artistic and literary quality and integrity it can never approach, let alone beat, is a sad reflection of the anime community. I have no problem with Japanese materials beating anything in the US. In fact, I'd be happy if Urasawa was topping the charts. But cheering on this mediocre, undeserving piece of trash is a petty and frankly stupid thing to do.
Nothing would happen. We'd gain a number of Johann fangirls, but the majority of the viewers will give up due to a conspicuous lack of bankai and boobies. |
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