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NEWS: Crunchyroll Streams 'Altered' Charger Girl Ju-den Chan


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TheBigN



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:26 pm Reply with quote
I was wondering why CR picked this up in the first place because I figured that they would have to censor it to show it. It looks like that will be the case. It will be interesting to see where things go from there.
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tygerchickchibi



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:34 pm Reply with quote
T&A Rant.

Of course, why am I not surprised...*rolls eyes.*
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GWOtaku



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:40 pm Reply with quote
A worthless gesture and an example of why they shouldn't have bothered with it in the first place. It's impossible to sanitize something like this for "all audiences." And according to the article, the censoring doesn't even universally apply to all of the bad stuff. So what is really accomplished?

They should just implement 18+ barriers and be done with it, or not bother at all. Again, you can't sanitize something as shameless as this.

And no, mercifully, this will never be licensed. No one is that stupid.
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Charred Knight



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:47 pm Reply with quote
Geotrio wrote:
Panda Man wrote:
I can understand taking out the peeing stuff, sincei t is rather disgusting


Except the peeing wasn't taken out. It was the only thing risqué left untouched in the Crunchyroll streams.


They took it out the second episode, in the first episode I think we see it like once.

As for all the bitching, I wonder how many people who have actually seen this series. I saw the first two episodes, and frankly it's better than a lot of other series. I would rather watch 26 episodes of this than Code Geass R2, or Aquarion. At least characters are developed in the first 13 god damn episodes.

As for the disgusting factor

Cardcaptor Sakura is a hell of a lot worse. Ju-den Chan is intended for adults and teenagers, Card Captor Sakura is intended for 8 year olds so the fact that pedophilia is treated as true love is about a 100 times worse than that moronic magical girl series in Juden chan.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:56 pm Reply with quote
Peeing Lolis Defense Force Team ACTIVATE
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The_X_box_360



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:03 pm Reply with quote
CR is damned if they do, damned if they don't, as far as censorship goes with this title.

Apparently, Crunchyroll isn't stupid enough to sabotage their recent success with reckless abandon. In other words, the decision to censor this series can be described in one simple term.... business decision.

On one hand, I'm relieved that CR has enough business competency to sensor this series, but on the other hand, I'm disappointed that they didn't simply remove this series as a new simulcast. Especially, in light of the content of the majority of their most recent anime additions to the site (reference to lesbian/pedophilia aka yuri/loli themed series).

For those who can't understand that, without censorship, Charger Girl would technically meet every genre qualification to be considered a fetish "hentai" series, trust my words....
-There is absolutely no benefit for a legal anime streaming site, that targets children as young as 13, to sacrifice credibility by including animated porn in it's list of provided content.
So, try to get over it, already.


EDIT:
-There are few things that could motivate me to cancel my Crunchyroll premium membership without hesitation. Post-2008 hosting of illegal fansubs, graphically-overt-pedophilia(aka loli) themed content, and pornographic animations top that list.
-The overt pedophilia is already present on the site, with series like Kanamemo. This means that, even, an enthusiastic subscriber like myself has already reached the point where he has compromised his personal integrity to remain a member, and is on the fence as to whether he should continue to support the site or resort to alternative sources for the series CR hosts. Overt pornographic(sexual-fetish themed animated nudity) content on a site that targets children as young as 13 would be the straw that breaks the camel's back, for me.


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vashfanatic



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:05 pm Reply with quote
GWOtaku wrote:
They should just implement 18+ barriers and be done with it, or not bother at all. Again, you can't sanitize something as shameless as this.


Yeah, the barriers where you tell them how old you are! 'Cause nobody ever lies on those!

Not saying that censorship is a good thing, but especially on an anime site where you may very well have younglings watching stuff, you're looking for a lawsuit if you let anything too graphic lying around. And of course Crunchyroll is going to care more about its own business than about freedom of speech - that's just what companies do. It may suck, but so it goes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Mr. X_Box beat me to this point, it seems Wink )
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Karva



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:18 pm Reply with quote
I was thinking of getting a Crunchyroll acount but first I heard about how some of the video quality isn't great (Saki) and now censorship.

No thanks.
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decepticons2



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:20 pm Reply with quote
I don't understand the real anger over the censorship. I am old enough to remember North American edits of shows like Nausica. This isn't some thing CR pulled out if there hats.

The article states "In preparing the title for a broader audience, avex entertainment, Inc. and Crunchyroll have worked closely together to make slight alterations to the original Japanese version of the show, which will later be used for its Japanese rebroadcast on UHF stations."
Really I wonder if we are adults here. If seeing an uncensored version is important to you import the R2's.

Both the japanese and the american companies seem to be in agreement that there is a slightly larger market for this.
Also lets not forget lately there seems to be a bit more negative coverage of anime style hentai.

Also one other thing no one has mentioned CR is also available in more countries then Canada and the US. Have any of you considered the impact something like this may have in another country.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:25 pm Reply with quote
what a step backwards 4 CR
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dan888



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:31 pm Reply with quote
There may be justification, and it may even be in their best interest, but these facts are simple.

1.) The one you pay for and is legal is censored, while the illegal fansubbed version is uncensored. This is generally not a good combination when trying to get people to turn away from fansubs.

2.) If given the choice, the vast majority of the anime community will typically want uncensored, not censored.

3.) This type of show, although not as much as queen's blade, is seen as what is suppose to be a very ecchi show without much content. With censorship, you take away much of the incentive to watch said show.

4.) Many people dislike censorship in any form, and by censoring, you will upset a large percent of the community. Don't believe this, look at the overall reactions on this thread, and the recent comments on Crunchy Roll. Just the perception that (insert what ever here) acts as a censor tends to lead to bad publicity. When ever you see a case of censorship, in general there are a few comments justifying it, and then many comments of people who are unhappy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:13 pm Reply with quote
Annf wrote:
Crunchyroll is kind of random with which versions they wind up with, even for things with uncensored versions already released.

They have the uncensored versions of some shows, such as Code Geass and Kigurumikku V3, but the censored versions of others, such as School Days. Doesn't seem to be much of an intentional pattern to it on CR's side.

This may have been more about making sure Japanese residents paying 2000yen/month for AT-X service don't feel ripped off as it was about adjusting for Crunchyroll's audience.


Wait, the School Days version they have up is censored? Well, that kinda blows. I had intended on watching it, but if it's some censored bull crap forget that. And, although I've never even heard of Charger Girl, the whole idea of censoring it seems contradictory. Apparently it can't stand by any 'good' standards, so how is taking out it's main selling point going to help?
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ZODDGUTS



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:17 pm Reply with quote
There's no point watching this series if the fanservice is censored since it's the only good thing going on in the series.
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TheBigN



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:28 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
Peeing Lolis Defense Force Team ACTIVATE


I've only seen the first episode where the only two characters that actually pee are at least designed older than I guess what one would call a typical loli (doesn't mean it's better or worse because of it. Incontinence is still incontinence Anime smile + sweatdrop ). Does that change in the next two episodes?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:49 pm Reply with quote
Censoring is what also turned me off from anything that was left of Rosario+Vampire Capu2 until the dvds were released, simply because the censoring got to the point where it was annoying. If this show has any amount of fanservice even close to R+V, then I wouldn't be able to stand watching the censored version, simply because it would be boring watching censors for most of the episode.

When there's a choice between watching the uncensored version or the censored one, most people will go towards the uncensored one, and not just for titillation, but rather for the lack of things covering the way it was originally drawn.
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