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Kit-Tsukasa
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So someone remind me whether or not America's concept of freedom even exists anymore?
1) the UN is interfering in matters of lesser importance compared to what is going on in the world right now. 2) considering Japan has one of the lowest rape rates in the world, especially when compared to the likes of European countries and the US, maybe the respective countries should fix their own problems rather than meddle in other countries who are "prospering better" than them 
3) cartoons = a form of art. If the UN is going to interfere with the freedom of expression in art, fix the damn old European and US paintings found in museums first. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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I think John Casey was saying that any minority or formerly downtrodden group will try and overreach it's original goal of parity or equality. They used a racial example, but I don't see how it still doesn't apply to extreme feminists who won't stop until woman have not just equality but superiority.
Ultimately, while there is still a painfully large gap in gender equality in Japan, Hentai is not the cause. Perhaps a symptom, but most certainly not the cause. Woman in Japan still have it near-infinitely better than in developing countries where: --- woman are less likely to be educated than men. --- female genital mutilation is sometimes practiced. --- women and girls are infected with HIV by their prostitute-using partners. --- if you believe some reports, girls as young as three months are being raped in South Africa in the belief that doing so will cure the rapists of AIDS. --- they are often forced into near- (if not outright) slave labour in order to pay their parents' debts. And so on. Those are the sort of problems that the UN should be concerning itself with. Even if Hentai was harmful to society (which I completely disagree with, as it really is a victimless crime), even IF, there are bigger fish to fry. I have a feeling that Hentai is being targeted more because of the possible publicity and its prevalence in first-world countries than because the people going after it are actually concerned about the plight of women who REALLY suffer. They need to target real problems, not ones where the "victim" is a drawing. |
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bleuster
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So, what if Japan doesn't comply? What's going to happen?
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Nothing, at least on the Japanese side. You simply cannot argue with people like Equality Now. Their objectives are completely unreasonable, they make a big fuss to get publicity for their cause, and they will never accept that there is no correlation between Japan's low rape rate and the prevalence of Hentai. Well, I'm not entirely sure that Hentai is keeping the number of rapes down, but something is. If it isn't broke don't fix it, a simple axiom that Japan will hopefully keep in mind. Without proof that the abundance of pornography is not an important factor in keeping rapes down, there is no reason for the Japanese to change that aspect of their social habit. |
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Tenchi
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Hmmm... nothing about shota. I guess the UN is cool with shota.
What will happen is what always happens when some nefarious regime in a rogue state falls afoul of a UN mandate. The UN will issue a tersely-worded letter. |
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Kougeru
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I agree that Japan should ignore them. Freedom should take priority of the feelings of cartoon characters. If they're honest-to-god offended by hentai and calling it "discrimination against women", then they need to stop putting THEMSELVES on that low of a level. If anything I notice there's a good balance between games focused on women and those on men, and all men games and all women games (and related material). It seems pretty balanced to me. I don't know what they REALLY want but it's definitely not to end "discrimination"
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chrisc1978
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"ban the sale of video games or cartoons involving rape and sexual violence against women"
Thats a bunch of BS. I am all for it but lets get real, North american companies license and sells it to. Last edited by chrisc1978 on Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:57 am; edited 1 time in total |
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AoiHonou
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On related note:
May 2009 incident in the Philippines (WHO is an agency under UN) Much more important for UN to worry about rather than picking up Japan. |
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Monster in a box
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Yawn. Been here, done this. I swear there's one of these articles every month.
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
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And I'm stranded on an island begging to join UN no matter what.
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icepick314
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shouldn't UN focus on REAL children and not the drawn ones?
last time i checked, there are PLENTY of ACTUAL people, including children, who are starving, being killed, sold into slavery, and dying of disease... drawings should not be on their focus at all... |
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chrisc1978
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What hentai being sold in USA does not contain rape and sexual violence against women?
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Ai no Kareshi
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Hey, UN, how about helping to stop the real crimes in my country rather than trying to ban virtual ones in Japan?
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Quark
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What I don't get is that real life pornography, featuring women exploiting and demeaning themselves is A-OK. But a drawing of a woman getting pretend raped suddenly is setting women back and making men think less of us? Okayyyy....
UN...seriously, there far more serious issues to deal with - how about the sex trade where young girls are either being kidnapped, or sold off by their families, to work in brothels? It bothers me that Equality Now doesn't have their priorities straight - deal with the girls who are actually being raped and abused first, worry about the imaginary ones later. |
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Sailor S
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How about worry about the imaginary ones never? Because they're imaginary. But, old news is old.
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