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Emerje



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:01 pm Reply with quote
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Also Shipping: The critically hyped Scribblenauts for the DS. Looks great, but it's beyond this column's focus.


If a video game is beyond this video game column's focus, then I have to ask, what is this column's focus, if not video games?


You complain about the column, but have never noticed that Todd only covers Japanese games? That would make an American game with no relation to Japan "beyond this column's focus."

God, people try so hard around here to pick over the stupidest crap.

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Get Excited If: You like Bowser in any way.


Oh Todd, how little you know about the hordes of Boswer fans out there XD

gatotsu911 wrote:
And as for what Mario & Luigi has to do with Internet fetishes... I don't know and I don't want to know.


Currently the most popular one is related to macro stuff, such as everyone wanting Bowser the size of a city or bigger than the planet. I theorize that the Super Mushroom obsession brought this game on (thank Smash Bros Melee and Brawl for that). Makes me wonder if Miyamoto has some fetishes of his own he won't admit to. XD

Bleach SRPG, hmmm, it may not be as bad as one would think. A shame I don't own a DS or I'd try it for the sake of trying it. :)

I wonder if it's because those FF "potions" are made with an unhealthy amount of sugar.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:30 pm Reply with quote
Emerje wrote:
You complain about the column, but have never noticed that Todd only covers Japanese games? That would make an American game with no relation to Japan "beyond this column's focus."
Funny how he still covered the announcement of Tales of Monkey Island.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:32 am Reply with quote
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For instance, the Okamiden news. You seem to think Chibiterasu is Amaterasu...


That remark about Chibiterasu being a puppy version of Amaterasu referred to the design more than anything, but I see how some confusion might arise.

sfried wrote:
Emerje wrote:
You complain about the column, but have never noticed that Todd only covers Japanese games? That would make an American game with no relation to Japan "beyond this column's focus."
Funny how he still covered the announcement of Tales of Monkey Island.


This column usually sticks to Japanese games and titles clearly influenced by Japanese games (like that Black Sigil DS RPG). I sometimes bend the rule if it's a slow week and a game reminds me of old LucasArts adventure titles. I'm also more likely to cover a non-Japanese game if people talk about it in the forum, so post away.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:43 am Reply with quote
Emerje wrote:
Raoh wrote:
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Also Shipping: The critically hyped Scribblenauts for the DS. Looks great, but it's beyond this column's focus.


If a video game is beyond this video game column's focus, then I have to ask, what is this column's focus, if not video games?


You complain about the column, but have never noticed that Todd only covers Japanese games? That would make an American game with no relation to Japan "beyond this column's focus."

God, people try so hard around here to pick over the stupidest crap.

Emerje

I'll admit you have a point. He did say way back in the first column that this was going to be a biased column.

Still, my point remains. All the news you read here can be read, as it comes out, on any other video game centric news website. Off the top of my head, Joystiq and Kotaku are good.

Then again, I don't come here for video game news, I come here for anime news.

I feel that if you're going to have a video game column, at least make it thurough, encompassing all of the news, and releases. But something like that is impossible, because video games are not the focus of this website, and thats why it feels more like a biased reporting of video game news in a small digest format.


Toddc; The design is on purpose. From what I have read they're trying to insinuate that Chibiterasu is Amaterasu's child, so similar design is warranted. They have stated that Chibiterasu is alot less powerful than Amaterasu, however.

Personally, I would enjoy this column alot more if it covered video games from both shores equally. I could understand that making your column alot harder to write, and thats one of the reasons why I havn't mentioned this until now. By focusing on video games from Japan itself, that cuts out quite a bit of discussion. However, like I said, it feels biased. I don't like bias in my news reporting. That may just be me, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:44 am Reply with quote
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He's made it pretty clear what he thinks of eroge. I doubt he would shell out $90+ for one.

EDIT spoiler[Furthermore he doesn't even know Saber's identity. Catherine the Great? Really?]


You'll have to forgive me for saying this, but you are really coming off like a butthurt fanboy. Specifically, one without a sense of humor. 99% of what Todd writes, ESPECIALLY in the captions, is strictly tongue-in-cheek. If you haven't figured that out by now, you either have difficulty detecting and/or dealing with sarcasm, or are not at all familiar with this column. Again, sorry if I'm coming off harsh, but I'm just trying to be real with you here.


And his treatment of Time Leap was what exactly?

From the "Blade Arts" column:

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I'm not even sure if I should cover it here, since it's basically an adults-only PC game with its filthiest content deleted for the Xbox 360 version, echoing a decades-old tradition of censorship among Japan's pornsmiths. So what, if anything, makes Time Leap notable? Well, it's a fully 3-D “adventure” game, a rarity in a genre that still sticks to the low expectations of cheap 2-D artwork whenever it can....Chances for a Domestic Release: Non-existent. Thank God


So no my problem with Todd is not with his snide ToolTips, its with his constant beating on the genre in every facet of the column and clear lack of understanding of visual novels (That art isn't exactly cheap, see here) He takes the 50 millionth Naruto game seriously but not VNs.
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I guess I'm only one of a few people who liked N3, and so the news of a possible sequel is very exciting! Sure, the voice acting and story of the first one was very cheesy and disjointed, but I loved racking up thousands of kills.

Hmm.. Makes me want to dust off my copy and play again. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:02 am Reply with quote
jyuichi wrote:
gatotsu911 wrote:
jyuichi wrote:
He's made it pretty clear what he thinks of eroge. I doubt he would shell out $90+ for one.

EDIT spoiler[Furthermore he doesn't even know Saber's identity. Catherine the Great? Really?]


You'll have to forgive me for saying this, but you are really coming off like a butthurt fanboy. Specifically, one without a sense of humor. 99% of what Todd writes, ESPECIALLY in the captions, is strictly tongue-in-cheek. If you haven't figured that out by now, you either have difficulty detecting and/or dealing with sarcasm, or are not at all familiar with this column. Again, sorry if I'm coming off harsh, but I'm just trying to be real with you here.


And his treatment of Time Leap was what exactly?

From the "Blade Arts" column:

Quote:
I'm not even sure if I should cover it here, since it's basically an adults-only PC game with its filthiest content deleted for the Xbox 360 version, echoing a decades-old tradition of censorship among Japan's pornsmiths. So what, if anything, makes Time Leap notable? Well, it's a fully 3-D “adventure” game, a rarity in a genre that still sticks to the low expectations of cheap 2-D artwork whenever it can....Chances for a Domestic Release: Non-existent. Thank God


So no my problem with Todd is not with his snide ToolTips, its with his constant beating on the genre in every facet of the column and clear lack of understanding of visual novels (That art isn't exactly cheap, see here) He takes the 50 millionth Naruto game seriously but not VNs.


Dont worry, I agree with you. I got sick of the 'lol moe sucks and if you like it you're a pedo' nature of these articles too. Sometimes they come across as incredibly immature; especially when he talks about a game that he just decides is moe...maybe the art is just a little cutesy, so he'll say something like "I can't like this because it's icky and pedo". Not those words exactly of course, and I can't cite an exact example (not going through the archives) but this week's hovertext for the pic from the FSN game, using Rin, is a pretty close example.
That and the constant "Japanese people hate women!" jokes. It's like some stand-up comedian that keeps repeating the same joke over and over....it gets old, really old. I think it's more offensive than 'tongue in cheek', personally.... it just really kills the enjoyment of the column for me. I've taken to skimming over most of it now.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:10 am Reply with quote
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And his treatment of Time Leap was what exactly?

From the "Blade Arts" column:

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I'm not even sure if I should cover it here, since it's basically an adults-only PC game with its filthiest content deleted for the Xbox 360 version, echoing a decades-old tradition of censorship among Japan's pornsmiths. So what, if anything, makes Time Leap notable? Well, it's a fully 3-D “adventure” game, a rarity in a genre that still sticks to the low expectations of cheap 2-D artwork whenever it can....Chances for a Domestic Release: Non-existent. Thank God


So no my problem with Todd is not with his snide ToolTips, its with his constant beating on the genre in every facet of the column and clear lack of understanding of visual novels (That art isn't exactly cheap, see here) He takes the 50 millionth Naruto game seriously but not VNs.


Okay, but if remove the art comment and the last line, then what exactly is wrong about that description? And how should he be handling eroge? 'This kind of game is coming soon and If you've liked this kind of game before, then you might like this too'?

And taking Naruto seriously? He makes fun of those games all the time! Heck, I don't think there's been a single game featured in the column that he HASN'T mocked in the ToolTips.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:09 am Reply with quote
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maybe the art is just a little cutesy, so he'll say something like "I can't like this because it's icky and pedo". Not those words exactly of course, and I can't cite an exact example (not going through the archives)


Yeah! Why actually putting in the effort necessary to support your argument when you can just make stuff up. Don't worry though, you covered your ass well by saying these aren't his exact words. Now you're immune to the counter-point that he never actually said that, but you're still able to imply he said something essentially the same. Good work.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:16 pm Reply with quote
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championferret wrote:
maybe the art is just a little cutesy, so he'll say something like "I can't like this because it's icky and pedo". Not those words exactly of course, and I can't cite an exact example (not going through the archives)


Yeah! Why actually putting in the effort necessary to support your argument when you can just make stuff up. Don't worry though, you covered your ass well by saying these aren't his exact words. Now you're immune to the counter-point that he never actually said that, but you're still able to imply he said something essentially the same. Good work.


Oh come on; anyone who has been reading the collumn should know what I mean, and I think the "I CANT ADMIT I PLAY AS RIN BECAUSE ONLY ICKY OTAKU LIKE CUTE GIRLS, AND I MUST ONLY USE MANLY CHARACTERS TO PROVE I AM NOT LIKE THEM" hovertext this week supports the argument pretty well.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:48 pm Reply with quote
And there you go again. You could easily quote what he actually said but that wouldn't support your argument very well would it? No, so instead you just make up something that does. You keep it sort of close so it seems plausible but then add a few key changes to drastically change the meaning.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:33 pm Reply with quote
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And there you go again. You could easily quote what he actually said but that wouldn't support your argument very well would it? No, so instead you just make up something that does. You keep it sort of close so it seems plausible but then add a few key changes to drastically change the meaning.


You're giving him crap because he didn't dig through the HTML to get the exact words?

What Todd "actually said" : "Rin is probably my favorite character to play, but if anyone asks I'll say Archer or Lancer to avoid looking like some moe-otaku freakjob."

I think that supports what championferret was saying. He wasn't trying to deceive you (you both have the source material XP) he just didn't dig for the quote.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:03 pm Reply with quote
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I'm also more likely to cover a non-Japanese game if people talk about it in the forum, so post away.
SCRIBBLENAUTS! SCRIBBLENAUTS! SCRIBBLENAUTS! SCRIBBLENAUTS! SCRIBBLENAUTS!

And maybe Overturn. And/or Soul Bubbles/Awatama.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:04 pm Reply with quote
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ikillchicken wrote:
And there you go again. You could easily quote what he actually said but that wouldn't support your argument very well would it? No, so instead you just make up something that does. You keep it sort of close so it seems plausible but then add a few key changes to drastically change the meaning.


You're giving him crap because he didn't dig through the HTML to get the exact words?

What Todd "actually said" : "Rin is probably my favorite character to play, but if anyone asks I'll say Archer or Lancer to avoid looking like some moe-otaku freakjob."

I think that supports what championferret was saying. He wasn't trying to deceive you (you both have the source material XP) he just didn't dig for the quote.


Thanks jyuichi. For future reference though, I'm a 'she'. Laughing

That, and I don't know how I was 'drastically changing the meaning'. :/ I was just remarking at how the snide jabs at moe/anything vaguely resembling moe/anything that may be interpreted as moe however vaguely gets really old in this collumn and can kill the enjoyment of it. I have the right to express my opinion on it. I'm not telling the collumnist to change, just suggesting he find a new joke because the same one after 100 times can get a little stale.
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