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UtenaAnthy



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:23 am Reply with quote
Case wrote:
UtenaAnthy wrote:
Not everything Yasuomi Umetsu's done is all that gory and porny, he did do a segment for Robot Carnival which is quite disturbing but a lot more symbolic and understated in it's visuals than say, Kite (which I have seen one scene from and will never watch in full because that scene was probably the goriest thing I've ever seen in animation... *shudder*).


Have you watched that segment at all recently? Are you thinking of the right segment?

Man's head getting severed and kicked around like a soccer ball... dumpster packed with bodies... Yeah, definitely Umetsu. Understated? Not particularly... They may be "robots", but they look human and the visual effect is the same as Kite.

Actually, Kite and Presence have quite a bit in common thematically. The robot girl and Sawa are virtually the same person, and the inventor is sort of an amalgamation of several major male characters in Kite. Robot Carnival preceded Kite by 9 years, but the similarity is unmistakable. It's too bad you're so set against watching it.


I watched the Robot Carnival segment "Presence" two or three days ago, and no a robot getting their head severed and kicked around isn't the same as a homosapien getting their head severed and kicked around, for a robot (at least in this case) it's not fatal and we don't even know they find it particularly painful so much as just annoying or perhaps traumatic psychologically (which I'm not intending to minimise), if robots have rights (and I would say yes they will, in the moral sense, as I can't say whether there'll be sufficient public support for it to be written into the law and yes I recognise this is a huge discussion that's been going on for at least several decades if they ever become sentient) it violates them, but I don't think it's the same.
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Fallen Wings



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:42 am Reply with quote
Wait- There is actually a low budget OVA with tentacles but DOESN'T use them? Woah ... Japan surprises me sometimes Wink

As for V-Cinema titles .. the only horror one that comes to mind is 'The Curse of Kazuo Umezu' ... have no idea if that can be considered as V-Cinema ... but it is a really rare title anyway.

Thanks for telling us about this one. I never use to believe your reviews until I tried MD Geist and Arcade Gamer ... and my soul was drained from me.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:15 pm Reply with quote
Sorry, you lost me at penis monsters D=
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The Unknown 24



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:19 pm Reply with quote
Kakugo wrote:


Oh sure, there's plenty of Godawful horror films out there: Nosferatu, The Silence of the Lambs, Alien, The Exorcist, The Fly, Audition, Let The Right One In... I mean, geez, who'd ever watch any of that



The silence of The Lambs, The Exorcist, & The Fly were all good movies.

Alien, was an awesome movie:

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Reaction to the film was positive, even by critics who were not usually favorable towards science fiction such as Barry Norman of the BBC's Film series.[53] It was a commercial success as well, making $78,900,000 in the United States and £7,886,000 in the United Kingdom during its first run.[53] It ultimately grossed $80,931,801 in the United States and $24,000,000 internationally, bringing its total worldwide gross to $104,931,801.[3]
[edit] Awards and accolades

Alien won the 1979 Academy Award for Visual Effects and was also nominated for Best Art Direction (Michael Seymour, Leslie Dilley, Roger Christian and Ian Whittaker).[4][6] It won Saturn Awards for Best Science Fiction Film, Best Direction for Ridley Scott, and Best Supporting Actress for Veronica Cartwright,[5] and was also nominated in the categories of Best Actress for Sigourney Weaver, Best Make-up for Pat Hay, Best Special Effects for Brian Johnson and Nick Allder, and Best Writing for Dan O'Bannon.[6] It was also nominated for British Academy of Film and Television Arts (BAFTA) awards for Best Costume Design for John Mollo, Best Editing for Terry Rawlings, Best Supporting Actor for John Hurt, and Most Promising Newcomer to Leading Film Role for Sigourney Weaver.[6] It also won a Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation and was nominated for a British Society of Cinematographers award for Best Cinematography for Derek Vanlint, as well as a Silver Seashell award for Best Cinematography and Special Effects at the San Sebastián International Film Festival.[6] Jerry Goldsmith's score received nominations for the Golden Globe Award for Best Original Score, the Grammy Award for Best Soundtrack Album, and a BAFTA Award for Best Film Music.[6]


You probably did not understand the concepts of these movies or you prefer a movie to be more action!!! Not everyone can understand the same things or are interested in the same things.


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Quark



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:30 pm Reply with quote
The Unknown 24 wrote:
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Pssst...he was being sarcastic. You probably do not understand the concept of sarcasm, or prefer all your humour to be slapstick. Not everyone can understand the same things or are interested in the same things.
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prime_pm



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:17 am Reply with quote
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prime_pm wrote:

Remember: a good horror movie is an oxymoron.


Then you've been watching the wrong horror movies, my friend. If you know what you're looking for, horror movies can be a treasure trove of excellence. They can act as social commentaries, can be emotionally moving, thought provoking, or just plain scary or entertaining.
If you want a taste of good horror, I'd recommend checking out movies like the earlier George Romero 'Living Dead' movies, Asian horror like Ring, Ju-on, Three Extremes, Park Chan-wooks 'Vengence' series, European horror like High Tension, Inside, Let the Right One In, Rec or Martyrs (only if you have a very strong stomach) or other great films like The Exorcist, 28 Days Later, the original Halloween (it creeps me out if I watch it alone) or The Descent.
If your only experience with horror movies is modern American horror movies, I can see how you could dislike the genre. The movies I mentioned are far superior to the popular horror coming out in North America right now.

However, if you dislike them because you're sensitive (my boyfriend hates them because they upset him) then you should probably disregard my suggestions Very Happy


Don't get me wrong: I love watching all kinds of horror movies, be it Night of the Living Dead or Zombie Nightmare, Halloween or My Bloody Valentine, The Crazies or The Happening, Suspiria or Don't Open the Door, Psycho or Psycho (kinda).

All I'm saying is, sometimes you love something because it's just so awful, you just have to see it. So bad that it's good.

I mean, you watch Dawn of the Dead, you get a nice piece of social commentary on the mass absorption of consumerism. Then you see Lucio Fulci's Zombi, you get to see a zombie fight a shark! Love it!

The point being, every horror movie has its own vibe that appeals to me in some way. It's all in how you look at it. Even if it's dreck, it appeals to me in some way, because it's still fun in some sadistic way.

And that's basically the appeal of most horror films anyway, the idea of the absurd, the sick, the demented, the obtuse, the unknown. That's why I'll always love the Higurashi series, and SARS Wars. And Bible Black.

Tokyo Zombie kinda left me with something more to desire, though.

Lady in the Water, there's no chance in hell.

Really need to see Sleepaway Camp, but can't get up the courage to see the last scene.

Still need to see Pandorum and Zombieland. God, I'm behind. Damn youtube.

Wow, just saw the preview to Martyrs, that's pretty damn good. Gotta check that out now. And I have Let The Right One In on queue, looking forward to seeing it. This October's gonna be great!
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Area88



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:25 am Reply with quote
Nice! Totally forgot about this one, defintly going to check it out, it's a curiousity piece.

There's not enough anime horror.
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