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I dont think you give Bandai enough credit. The original version on the Japanese BR box set looks a LOT better than the DVD and much of the film shake has been removed.
Having said this, one of the major reasons for the 2.0 re-edit was because Bandai claimed they couldnt upscale the original CG used in the film without it looking like a mess (I believe it was due to the original resolution used?). So the new CG in 2.0 also means they could go in and remaster the entire flick more thoroughly.
I recently held a GitS night with some friends whi had never seen the movie before though - and EVERYONE thought the remaster of the original cut looked better than 2.0. Could have just been how jarring the new colour palette and CG looks though.

Either way, Im well aware that the guys were pimping the Manga release and I applaud them for that. I myself bought more than my fair share of (shoddy) Manga VHS back in the day. My point was more aimed at the first segment - bitch all you like about the US version but its not like alternatives dont exist. Yes its expensive, but you get what you pay for (hey, you want expensive? I imported all the Japanese Macross 7 VHS tapes back when I was in Uni, lol), and for a GitS fan its not really that much, especially with amazon jpn discounts, etc. I suppose what disgruntles me most is that the existence of the 2.0 boxset wasnt even mentioned, whereas pretty much everyone I've mentioned it to ever since it came out last year has pretty much run out and snagged a copy.

penguintruth wrote:

It's the fault of the Western audience, not Gainax, for trying to interpret things as having religious meaning. In Japan, nobody was under that assumption. Evangelion is complex because of what it has to say about people, not God.

the fanboys in the late 1990's making the con circuit ruined our popular understanding of the series, duped many into thinking it was about 'religious imagery'....but ultimately, we were dumb enough to believe them, and accept them as authority figures; like the weirdos down at Otakon who spend hour-long convention panels showing gif images of female cast members boobs giggling, porn fanart ripped straight from 4chan.

AWO, if you think of the "Otakon crowd" as "what Eva is" you are right to hate it so. But we have to undo what they have done.

Question: I want to make a video-review of the English dub commentary for End of Eva, pointing out the many factual mistakes they make....I would *like* to use actual audio quotes from it.

Given that Manga Entertainment "lost the license" is that...legal? or did they only lost the license to the show, not the commentary?

_V_ wrote:

Question: I want to make a video-review of the English dub commentary for End of Eva, pointing out the many factual mistakes they make....I would *like* to use actual audio quotes from it.

Given that Manga Entertainment "lost the license" is that...legal? or did they only lost the license to the show, not the commentary?

Wouldn't that be Fair Use, regardless?

Fronzel wrote:

_V_ wrote:

Question: I want to make a video-review of the English dub commentary for End of Eva, pointing out the many factual mistakes they make....I would *like* to use actual audio quotes from it.

Given that Manga Entertainment "lost the license" is that...legal? or did they only lost the license to the show, not the commentary?

Wouldn't that be Fair Use, regardless?

Not really, but frankly the american company wouldn't care. One of the guys from Funi has stated that as long as it makes people want to see more they don't care. If people are fine having seen just that than they do care.

For example Funimation only really goes after people who release full episodes not people who make anime music video.

Fronzel wrote:

_V_ wrote:

Question: I want to make a video-review of the English dub commentary for End of Eva, pointing out the many factual mistakes they make....I would *like* to use actual audio quotes from it.

Given that Manga Entertainment "lost the license" is that...legal? or did they only lost the license to the show, not the commentary?

Wouldn't that be Fair Use, regardless?

Yeah, as long as you're only pulling out a few specific quotes to comment on, that's pretty much the definition of fair use. Now if you, say, printed an entire transcript of the commentary track without permission, THAT would be illegal.

Charred Knight wrote:

Fronzel wrote:

_V_ wrote:

Question: I want to make a video-review of the English dub commentary for End of Eva, pointing out the many factual mistakes they make....I would *like* to use actual audio quotes from it.

Given that Manga Entertainment "lost the license" is that...legal? or did they only lost the license to the show, not the commentary?

Wouldn't that be Fair Use, regardless?

Not really, but frankly the american company wouldn't care. One of the guys from Funi has stated that as long as it makes people want to see more they don't care. If people are fine having seen just that than they do care.

For example Funimation only really goes after people who release full episodes not people who make anime music video.

Pay attention: I said Manga Entertainmen's End of Eva dub commentary...FUNimation has nothing to do with that...and it would be me, utterly ripping into the commentary, pointing out that no one in their right mind would buy it. They would never consent willingly to me doing this, and my question is that do they even have the legal right to stop me if the license lapsed?

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Yeah, as long as you're only pulling out a few specific quotes to comment on, that's pretty much the definition of fair use. Now if you, say, printed an entire transcript of the commentary track without permission, THAT would be illegal.

Yeah...you know what? I'll make a big announcement at the front saying "this is out of print, and I'm only using cited quotes and for educational purposes, which completely matches the definition of "Fair Use"..."

Zin5ki wrote:

CruzMissile wrote:

My question is... if the rest of macross is in licensing hell how did Manga get the license to Macross Plus way back when?

As I understand it, anything involving SDF Macross is a legal quagmire in R1, due to Harmony Gold's control over the main source material of Robotech. Since none of the footage in Macross Plus constitutes any part of their product, one presumes there was little Harmony Gold could do to prevent another company from licensing it in R1.
That's my assumption though. Since it depicts some of the same intellectual content as Robotech, licensing Plus might have involved jumping some legal hurdles of which I'm unaware.

My impression was that Manga with Macross Plus and US Renditions with Macross II (that Manga got after US Renditions went down) got their licenses before HG started their Macross blocade.

End of Evangelion absolutely needs to be re-licensed and reprinted. Out of all the out of print anime on R1 DVD, it deserves it the most. It's a goddamn classic.