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walw6pK4Alo
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I buy the things I like and try not to care what others think about it. I tend to believe that everyone has a personal deep perversion that they keep hidden, or suppressed. It all goes with the idea of what do you judge the basis of normal to be? If you like anime, you're already a creepy person to the "normal" people, regardless of what anime you prefer. It could be the animated form of a Michael Bay movie, but because it's animated and from Japan, the view of it is skewed. The idea of anime being full of creeps and weirdos is already cemented, has been forever, it's never going to change either, as I feel.
As for the deep seeded perversions, it comes to fruition every so often when those moralistic puritanical spewing republican politicians are found in homosexual love-affairs with children. How many times has that happened now? But really, figures for the most part tends to just be on the innocent side, as ones that are truly perverse and creepy (such as the type that cast-off) are also on the very expensive side. That's not something that casual buyers will fall privy to. Most figure buying from that I've experienced and observed tends to be the cheap stuff: figmas, revoltechs, gashapons, and the mass-produced and cheap larger statues. As with any kind of person who collects stuff, some people will understand it, some won't. I kind of find that guy who collects macaroni and cheese boxes to be on the odd side, but I'll try not to hold it against him. |
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LiuXuande
 Posts: 201 Location: Chicago |
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All the 「せんし」 on 2ch woudl beg to differ...then again you don't matter much to them anyway 
The argument goes both ways Zac. Like this:
That you used "disgusting shit" to describe other fans nullifies your argument right away. Indeed, saying someone isn't a fan because they disapprove of something is wrong. But that's exactly what you're doing, you're marginalizing people who are interested in the myraid of genres outside of shounen action/mystery/Cowboy Bebop, and saying that they are just creeps trying to be accepted by the "larger" population of anime fans. Try telling that to 2ch. PetrifiedJello's original comment can be put into perspective. Your conservatism is very ethnocentric (for lack of a better word, since I guess you can treat anime fans as a culture), whereas even though there are a lot of things I personally would not care for or be into (guro, etc) the actual correlation to these individuals being super-antisocial is not too great. If someone wants to look at guro, and lead a healthy life without harming anyone, let them. Sure anyone can take anything too far and that is the fault of those specific individuals; the occasional crazed fan that does something stupid in Akiba doesn't account for everyone who loves their hobby enough to expand on it, collect figures, body pillows, whatever. I'm not one who would start such a collection, or own other memorabilia, but I can respect or at least nod at those who are interested in it. It's not "not being a fan" to call those habits weird or disgusting. Llet them be, they're not hurting you by collecting figures. You don't have to "accept" it, but you don't have to target people who like something you find "objectionable" either. For you to target them as you are (even in your attempt to prove an unreleated point about PetrifiedJello's argument you're name-calling and being cynical) is just mean spirited. |
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Xagor
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People really will argue over anything won't they...
I personally tend to try and avoid the more 'revealing' figures, because well I'd rather just not have them generally. (Also well part of it's down to other people's perceptions of them, but there's probably already enough there that if someone doesn't 'get' the idea of figures they'd find them weird.) Since a few other people were doing it: http://myfigurecollection.net/profile/Xagor You might notice a slight pattern... |
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Quark
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Aughhh you have the Makoto figure, you lucky, lucky person! Nice collection. We have some of the same figures (Haruhi school uniform, Mikuru waitress, Hanyuu, Rika, and I gave my boyfriend the one of Konata wearing shorts holding the Akira doll) But seriously, I am super, super jealous of your Makoto figure. Oh, and your Rugyuu Rena figure. Red-headed anime girls are the best. Oh, and you were saying that there are no bootlegs of Makoto...does the same go for all the Kanon figures, cause the Nayuki figure is really cute too. Update: I'm no longer jealous. I found a Makoto on ebay and dropped $160 Canadian on her. Ouch, my wallet 
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doctordoom85
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I'm not offended by said figures, and I certainly don't have a problem with people buying them (that's their right), but I don't want to own any of them, and it IS reasonable to be frustrated by how large a percentage of the figures are of the fanservice/ecchi type. Just went to Amazon and typed in "PVC" and that's the good majority of what came up. Is it so wrong to want to buy figures that are wearing clothes they normally wear in the actual series (Code Geass figures would have an observer think Viletta and Kallen are trying to attract male attention 24/7  )? I should say not.
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Maryohki
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On topic of tsukiboard, this is mine:
http://myfigurecollection.net/profile/Stringed On topic of the current debate, WTF guys? I really fail to see what's wrong with having PVC figures, even the scantily clad ones. None of them are exceptionally dirty, not even the cast-off ones, and to each their own anyway. I don't see why people love condemning each other's tastes in collectibles or in porn, either. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
 Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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Nor they to me.
Simply put, you cannot express even mild dislike of certain fetishes without being demonized as a hater, a divider, someone trying to insult and demean other fans. The melodramatic kneejerk response gets certifiably insane at times. I so much as say I don't care for guro, suddenly I'm a villain. In fact, if you say anything like that, people twist your words and extrapolate your point, putting words in your mouth - me saying I think loli is "creepy" isn't just an expression of personal taste, suddenly it's me marginalizing an entire section of the fanbase. To that, I say stop being so ludicrously sensitive. It is not everyone else's job to be immediately hyper-tolerant and accepting of your sexual fetishes if you choose to be so rampantly public about them. And no, telling people they aren't fans because they like guro or loli isn't at all "exactly what I'm doing".
Who said anything about these people being antisocial or lacking social skills? Nobody did. Again this is an extrapolation - you think you know the extent of my argument, and so you end up putting words in my mouth, arguing against a false strawman version of what I actually said. Just so you know, here is what I believe. I'll bold it for you so you can't miss it. Enjoy whatever you want to enjoy. Engage in whatever you want to engage in. So long as nobody is being harmed, there is nothing wrong with people liking what they like, regardless of how objectionable I or anyone else may personally find it. Be as passionate or as dispassionate about it as you like, it's your business. Enjoying a certain fetish does not instantly mean you are an antisocial creep, but understand that being so public about it may lead people to believe you are creepy. This is simple. However, just as you have the right to talk at length about how you love watching cartoon girls being raped and graphically dismembered, I have just as much a right to say that I find that material creepy and gross. And that's just how things are. Hopefully that clears up any misunderstandings you may have about how I feel about this issue.
Who are you arguing with here? Who ever said anything about people looking at this stuff not being able to maintain normal lives? Again, you have this other argument going on, one I am not a part of.
You and I agree!
Again, this smacks so much of hypersensitivity. All I have to do is say that I find those fetishes creepy and gross, and it's not just an opinion, I'm "targeting" people, someone's somehow being harmed, there are victims involved. I said I found it creepy, that's it. I reject the notion that it's my duty to never express that opinion lest someone who bathes every post in gushing praise for their particular sexual fetish has their delicate sensibilities challenged. |
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jenthehen
 Posts: 835 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio |
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I don't think there are any bootleg Kanon figures ... you can check on tsuki-board, though  Each figure has an entry and tells you if it has known bootlegs. Since Kanon isn't the most popular show (more Niche) the bootleggers don't really invest in making them - Haruhi bootlegs are rampant, of course!
To be safe on ebay, you just make sure the seller claims that it is authentic and/or uses the actual company/brand name of the figure in the description. Then you can be pretty certain it's real And if you get it and find it's bootleg, you can definitely complain to ebay and get your money back!
Congrats on Makoto! I also splurged on her on Ebay for a little under $150 (US dollars) - worth it, though!! |
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Hikari06
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Thanks Zac. I'm a pretty hardcore anime fan, and frankly, it's flabbergasting to have to defend myself from other fans on the internet for stating that a series with strong lolicon/shoutacon/incest/whatever-the-hell-niche-fetish (or fetishy elements like that found in a mostly non-fetishy series) really, personally repulses me (or at the least, creeps me out). (And yes, I know that people who enjoy those fetishes in anime and manga aren't necessarily harmful.)
That issue aside- great strip this week! |
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Quark
Posts: 710 Location: British Columbia, Canada |
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I just discovered that site today because you linked it earlier, and that feature is definitely handy. The funny thing is though, there's figures of the twins from Lucky Star dressed as Miko, and Tsuki board says that there are no bootlegs of them. However, on ebay, I've seen pictures that are definite bootlegs - the poses are off a bit, the props they're holding aren't the same, etc. So maybe there's a smidge of error going on there? Still, such a great resource to help a person to avoid boots.
Heh heh yeah, she was $125 US before shipping. Compared to the others available, it was a pretty sweet deal. |
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jenthehen
Posts: 835 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio |
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Yeah, there may be some mistakes on tsuki-board ... I thought that somebody had posted pics of the bootleg miko kagami, though. Hmmm~ |
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Kyosuke_
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I was one of the people who pre-ordered Makoto and got her for the SRP (about 5500 yen)... Most of the time I pre-order figures which in the end saves money individually, but I still spend a lot total on figures anyway so I guess it doesn't matter! Anyway, glad you got her though, she's a nice figure. http://myfigurecollection.net/profile/Kyosuke |
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SailorButterfly
 Posts: 152 Location: Pike Road, AL |
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Here's mine, just created tonight: http://myfigurecollection.net/profile/SailorButterfly
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vapwaazu
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Created mine today too 
http://myfigurecollection.net/profile/shawaazu |
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doctordoom85
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Yeah, thanks for mentioning the site! Here's my collection:
http://myfigurecollection.net/collection/Doom85/&view=icons&status=2 And on order: http://myfigurecollection.net/collection/Doom85/&view=icons&status=1 |
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