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KanjiiZ



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:55 pm Reply with quote
For a sub only? I do believe 40 dollars is too much for a bare bones release with poor cover art and such. Gao Gai Gar was priced perfectly when I bought it, 25 dollars for 25 episodes, sub only. That's perfect a dollar an episode.

I think the only series I was ever happy with spending +50 dollars for was Black Lagoon. Decent cover art, extras, good quality, dub, what more could I ask for?
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mo-chan



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:25 am Reply with quote
egoist - thanks? I think you were saying you agree with me...but if you weren't sorry bout that *scratching head* but really I think you were agreeing with me.

moomintroll - kanpai!! my ashtray's empty, wanna share? And have you seen the Bartender series? It'll probably never get any play here in the States, as it's an anime all about the beautiful side of cocktails, written in the most poetic & prosaic Japanese you've ever heard, with astonishingly well-done animation for a 10-ep series, but if you are the same age as me, your search search for a clean glass will feel a little more fulfilling after watching it, I should think...in any case, I highly recommend it.

Something I'd like to recommend to everyone is Fall 2009's First Squad: The Moment of Truth OVA that came out very early in the season; both because it is just plain old very very good - and because it is a Russian/Japanese collaboration, and the language you will hear when watching it is (drumroll) Russian. I also recently watched a very interesting (albeit a bit depressing) and, although at first I was hesitant to think so, well-worth the watching, Dutch-made animated feature called "Princess". For those of you who have Netflix accounts, you can find Princess in the Watch Instantly section. For those of you who don't - what's it like, living in a hole? Just kidding, but honestly, I don't of any other way for you to see this. Warning: Princess is not for children.
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CCSYueh



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:03 am Reply with quote
KanjiiZ wrote:
For a sub only? I do believe 40 dollars is too much for a bare bones release with poor cover art and such. Gao Gai Gar was priced perfectly when I bought it, 25 dollars for 25 episodes, sub only. That's perfect a dollar an episode.

I think the only series I was ever happy with spending +50 dollars for was Black Lagoon. Decent cover art, extras, good quality, dub, what more could I ask for?


Depending on when you bought it...It was originally released in 2008 at $35 list. There's a new litebox due out in February with a list price of $30 so on sale that will be around $17 for 25 eps.

It all comes down to what you are willing to spend. My husband was the type of guy who knew the price of everything & the value of nothing. As a computer programmer friend once told me--whatever you pay for your computer, it will be cheaper almost immediately-the proverbial drive-the-car-off-the-lot-&-it's-worth-$xxx-less.
A $50 box can be had for around $28 & a $40 box can be found on sale for about $21.50.
If you're so worried about a couple dollars, you probably can't afford it.
I look at it as I know what I get paid per hour--related to how many hours of anime in the box, is the value reasonable? If you think anime is only worth $2-$3 per hour, it really can't mean that much to you. I mean, I paid $11 for 2 tickets to see Sherlock Holmes. That was 2 hours of movie at $5.50 or $2.75 per hour per person.
If I pay $27 for a One Piece box, I'm getting entertainment costing about $5 per hour I can watch alone or share with others
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Zaku71



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:09 am Reply with quote
Excuse me for my terrible english but...

Why do you associate Western animation only with U.S. animation?

You know, you aren't alone in the Western Hemisphere Smile

I believe French or Belgian animators and Italians studios gave us wonderful products Very Happy

So... the question is:

Japanese animation vs U.S. animation or...

Japan VS rest of the world?
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fuuma_monou



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:08 am Reply with quote
yuricon wrote:
Aside from the fact that other than doujinshi, which are not licensable, there's actually very little Yuri porn.


And what non-doujinshi yuri porn there is seems to be easier to find in older stuff, for some reason. Kei Amagi's older H manga has a lot of yuri and yuri-ish futanari (Stainless Night), but his more recent stuff is mostly het. Ditto for Satoshi Akifuji's and Tamako Kimio's recent books having little to no yuri. And of course those older books are OOP, though some of them are available as legal downloads (in Japan, at least).

Non-parody/original doujinshi are probably licensable. The Countdown Special issue from Eros Comix had a story from an Uroboros (Hiroyuki Utatane's circle) doujinshi.
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Haterater



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:25 am Reply with quote
@ Zaku71

That's how I feel at times. Many people seem to only link Western "anything" equals US "only" and that's bothersome. There are many choices and the likes to compare to.

I know I did like Winx Club and was surprised to learn it was Italian, as many trolls seem to think it was from America because 4Kids brought it here. That plus rarity of seeing other animation from companies in a country seem to lead to that debate.


As for the value of money thing, you can always just wait for it to on sale or other coupon like deals. If you love a show but don't want to pay the full price, you have the option of waiting for a price drop.
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Zaku71



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:47 am Reply with quote
Haterater wrote:
@ Zaku71
I know I did like Winx Club and was surprised to learn it was Italian, as many trolls seem to think it was from America because 4Kids brought it here.


Thanks! Very Happy

Try to check some classic Italian animated movie like Allegro ma non troppo, West and Soda or La Gabbianella e il gatto. Wink
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TheVok



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:56 am Reply with quote
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If anything, I'd say that FLCL's 6-episode running time is both it's greatest asset, and it's biggest detriment.


It hurts to read this ... can someone (preferably an ANN editor) please explain to Brian that there is no apostrophe in the word 'its'?
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mo-chan



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:29 pm Reply with quote
To those of you saying that everyone is only comparing Japan anime to US animation, I beg to differ; if you scroll back and read my post just centimeters above yours, you'll see I make not one, but two recommendations - one is the Russian/Japanese collaboration "First Squad: Moment of Truth" (which is in Russian), and the other is "Princess" which is a Dutch-made animation. So I don't know exactly what you're trying to say, posting your message so closely after mine...were my examples not up to snuff enough for you? Or was it because I did not point out that they were not US or Japan made?

And...there is an apostrophe in the word "it's" only if it's a contraction of the words "it is", just as I have used it there in my sentence - however, while you are absolutely correct about that person's misuse of an apostrophe in their use of the word its in the possessive, I do not approve or condone of any form of nitpicking over pointless things such as grammar, spelling and/or the occasional dropped word when reading and/or responding in a forum. I believe I've stated this before - a forum is not an academic symposium, so cut people a little slack - is it really that painful for you to read? How much more painful is it for that person to now have to feel self-conscious and hesitate the next time they wish to share their feelings & thoughts? I'd much rather read a few typos than than even one more pointless comment that does not add anything to the discussion.

Capisce? Anyone?
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Kirikiri23



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:27 pm Reply with quote
mo-chan wrote:
Russian/Japanese collaboration "First Squad: Moment of Truth" (which is in Russian),




Why would you recommend that ?
it's awful one of the worst things I've ever seen
and no I didn't read the rest of your paragraphs
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stararnold



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:58 pm Reply with quote
I know we're all have our opinions, but regarding the issue of Anime fans in North America labelling Western Animation as boring and poorly drawn, it seems today as if there are three issues occuring:

1) there are those who don't realize that it's the story the counts and not the art. If you think of people who love "The Simpsons", you'll realize they intend to not worry about how characters are drawn and just enjoy the show for what it is.

2) there are those in North America who no longer accept the sense of creativity and artistic talents of anyone involved in Western Animation industry for what it is, thus they end up not wanting the worse for all Western Animation, but also refusing to consider that everyone's entitled to his/her own kind of style.

And 3) the idea of all Anime being superior to Western animation has so far led to a number of people wanting to ignore not only the fact that Canada and U.S. have been producing animated films and series that are partly/entirely meant for adults to enjoy during the past years, but also that there are still Western Animated series and films do well in attracting and appealing to viewers.
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Haterater



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:44 am Reply with quote
Zaku71 wrote:
Haterater wrote:
@ Zaku71
I know I did like Winx Club and was surprised to learn it was Italian, as many trolls seem to think it was from America because 4Kids brought it here.


Thanks! Very Happy

Try to check some classic Italian animated movie like Allegro ma non troppo, West and Soda or La Gabbianella e il gatto. Wink


I'll check those out, thank you!


I think the problem for US animation nowadays is just there isn't enough variety. Lots of comedy for children and adults along with the typical educational/super hero shows. Not enough drama, "mature themes," slice of life, etc. Would love to see more stuff like Aeon Flux on TV, but not really seeing that. I think more of the haters out there will quiet down if that were to happen.
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mo-chan



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:36 am Reply with quote
Kirikiri23 wrote:
mo-chan wrote:
Russian/Japanese collaboration "First Squad: Moment of Truth" (which is in Russian),


Why would you recommend that ?
it's awful one of the worst things I've ever seen
and no I didn't read the rest of your paragraphs


What kind of a question...? I would think the answer to your question would be obvious: the reason I or anyone would recommend anything they've watched is because they LIKED IT. I didn't say one negative word about your choice, yet you chose to attack my choice? yare yare...I think maybe I should just give up trying to DISCUSS anything in this forum - it seems everyone is just itching to fight.

This is the ratings info from ANN's page on First Squad:
52 ratings have been given
Masterpiece: 4 votes
Excellent: 5 votes
Very good: 12 votes
Good: 14 votes
Decent: 4 votes
So-so: 5 votes
Not really good: 3 votes
Weak: 1 vote
Bad: 4 votes

And two of the articles ANN has posted regarding First Squad:

animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-10-12/summer-wars-sky-crawlers-1st-squad-get-asia-pacific-screen-award-nods

animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-30/4c-first-squad-wins-award-at-moscow-intl-fim-fest
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Zaku71



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:46 am Reply with quote
mo-chan wrote:
To those of you saying that everyone is only comparing Japan anime to US animation, I beg to differ; if you scroll back and read my post just centimeters above yours, you'll see I make not one, but two recommendations - one is the Russian/Japanese collaboration "First Squad: Moment of Truth" (which is in Russian), and the other is "Princess" which is a Dutch-made animation. So I don't know exactly what you're trying to say, posting your message so closely after mine...were my examples not up to snuff enough for you? Or was it because I did not point out that they were not US or Japan made?


I'm sorry I skipped your post. Embarassed

Is "Princess" avaible on dvd with English subtitles? Thank you for your recommendation. Smile

ps "capisce" in italian language is used only to address the second person formally or to express that a third person (he, she, it) understands. Perhaps in this context the right word is "capisci?" (second person, informally). Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop


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Keonyn
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:47 am Reply with quote
Not everyone mo-chan, but there's always some, just like most forums with a reasonably sized user base. You'll find that Answerman and Shelf Life discussion threads tend to bring in the most of those types, but I wouldn't let that discourage you.
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