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neocloud9
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And I'm none of those. What about fans who simply enjoy fleshed-out fantasy settings or the realistic progression of a relationship between dynamic characters? THAT'S what drew me to Spice and Wolf, not any bizarre fetish. You make it sound like the show is some sort of pander-fest, which it really isn't. I could tell that real thought, effort and - dare I say it - heart went into this series and it drew me in like no other show has in a long time. It felt genuine to me. I hate to complain, because I know a lot of nerd-rage is coming, but I can't help but feel that this falls squarely in the "judging a book by its cover" camp. And it's a pity, really. |
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zawa113
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Yep, that's what got me too! I didn't even know Planetes had an artbox, let alone that they made at least 3 copies of it. It really makes me want to do that with 3 cheaper artboxes off TRSI, although I'd have to slap myself for that before I hit the order button because I don't have that kind of shelf space. I should also be so fortunate that Gurren Lagann's set really isn't designed like that or I'd be over there right now clicking away And my god, laserdiscs? I've never seen one of those before in my life, they used to print anime on those things? I wonder if, in the future, someone will run into a situation like in Cowboy Bebop where they grabbed the VHS player instead of the beta-max player when trying to watch a laserdisc they get mysteriously in the mail only to grab a DVD player
Amen to that, I'd have to question how much time you've got for rewatching your favorites when a collection gets that big. Thankfully though, this guy doesn't seem to just have every title under the sun like he walks into Best Buy every week and picks up anything he doesn't already have, but rather has more multiple artboxes, LEs, different editions, etc of fewer series. Seriously, that was, what, like 2 shelves devoted almost entirely to Robotech? I personally think it looks like he's choosy enough about what to get, I think I might actually have more manga than him (the only series we share being Maison Ikkoku), but I noticed a severe lack of Princess Tutu in there |
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njprogfan
Collector Extraordinaire
Posts: 1160 Location: A River Named Toms |
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...and then have kids |
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rainbowcourage
Posts: 1216 Location: what is commonly known as "hell week" |
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I'm not trying to troll, flame, fangirl or any of what Zac is suggesting. My main concern is that broad generalizing can really turn the series off for a lot of people. I've seen many intelligent people who viewed Spice and Wolf as exactly those three elements and nothing more, and missed a great series because of a cursory glance.
So on Horo's tsundereness, I'll just quote myself from here. yeah, quoting yourself is lame, but there's no sense in repeating the same argument.
I was surprised to see Spice and Wolf as only rental-worthy; but it did make me think twice. I probably would have put it as shelf-worthy, but maybe if the series doesn't have broad general appeal it shouldn't be shelf-worthy, regardless of the quality, at least for the purposes of this column. |
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Mistypearl
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In response to the shelves- Gosh. I don't know how I'm ever going to deal with owning a house because just seeing a room full of valuable possesions probably worth a good year at school is filling my mind with images of raging fires, typhoons and rabid beasts. I'm filled less with envy than pure fear! Maybe if my tastes aligned with the owner it would be more envious, but I'm only wondering where that scrapped princess box set came from. I only have the DVDs (Some with the crappy figures and some without, I picked and chose) but I didn't know the boxset was so massive. I think its the US one because it actually says Scrapped Princess on it under the title, but I could be mistaken. I do admire those shelves though, in a literal sense. I am in desperate need of bookshelves, and the cheapo one I got at staples is only somewhat satisfying but anyway!
I think I watched around 4~5 episodes of Spice and Wolf when I first heard it was being licensed, but eh. I dropped it. It just wasn't my piece of pie. I also couldn't get attached to the characters as well. In fact, I actually have no recollection of anything I watched. I remember her being naked, and angry townspeople/henchmen (?) capturing her after a bad deal went down or something like that. Yeah. I honestly wanted to like it, I swear! :/ Edit: I was just thinking about it, and I was wondering if Shelf Life is going to get a new banner. I only ask because it seems that new writer = new banner in recent cases. I like the current one of course, but just a thought Last edited by Mistypearl on Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:39 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Prede
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Not to keep up the debate...but....gata say this
rainbowcourage: I know what you mean by people can be turned off by "broad generalizing". When you get down to it, any show can be generlized, and made to sound like it's really nothing worth watching. Every form of entertianment has some type of trope. The trick is useing said tropes in a way that's new and interesting, or at least compelling, if not very original. Having common themes is one thing, but being cliche is an entirely other. (Not that this show is cliche or anything...just making conversation) |
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SuperJoe_Kujo
Posts: 4 Location: Edinburgh! |
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Sorry to nitpick but the writer doesn't say Holo is a tsundere. The show might appeal to "people who like tsundere". Which is quite different and also absolutely fair. I think some people barely read these articles before going on a rant.
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John Casey
Posts: 1853 Location: In My Angry Center |
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You know, I've always been an advocate in respecting people's opinions... Never once have I ever aimed at anyone's tastes before on this site. Or...any, really. At best, I might have questioned a thing or two, but always came out in an understanding light.
But...I gotta say it... I've always tried to respect Erin for having different opinions on things....but with the track record that Erin's columns have accumulated, and when I start to see the pattern, I can honestly say... Erin. You have no taste... =/ Flame me. Stone me. Zac, go ahead and say something really mean spirited then hit the ban button or whatever... Just know, that this truly is my first time saying this...so, uh. Take that under gravity. =/ |
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Lemoncookies23
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Right, because Lawrence is such a tsundere.... Besides Holo, who else could Erin be referring to? Once again, I neither agree with Erin's opinions nor like her writing style. Beyond that, sweet mother of god those shelves are amazing! I prefer collecting my anime in thinpaks as opposed to artboxes, but collecting the latter, if done in the way Alec has, can look pretty damn awesome. |
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Quark
Posts: 710 Location: British Columbia, Canada |
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They used to make a lot of anime on laser disk. My boyfriend has a decent sized collection of anime on laser disk. He always likes to tell me that for his Tenchi Muyo! disks, he paid about $50 per EPISODE. This is why I always laugh when people whine about having to pay $50 for a 26 episode series. To the person asking about Setllers of Catan - OH MAN. If you can find someone who owns the game, bug them until they will set up a game. It's so fun and addicting. As for Spice and Wolf - I just got it today in the mail. Have never seen it, so can't weigh in on this crazy argument. But I will say this - the arguing I've seen over this show is mental. About as mental as Clannad Afterstory - which also just came in the mail. As for the shelves - that's not a collection, that's a library. And what's even more mind-boggling is that is seems the collector has not only bought the R1 singles of various shows, but he's also bought the R2s! Off the top of my head, he's got R1s and R2s of Tsukiyomi Moon Phase, and Ah! My Goddess. Sir...you are a Collector. I bow at your skills...and wallet. Not to mention, the shelves themselves are great (pst, where'd you get them?) |
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zrdb
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I can think of only one word to describe your anime collection-retail store (ok-so it's 2 words).
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vashfanatic
Posts: 3489 Location: Back stateside |
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I've no real interest in Spice and Wolf right now, partly because I despise economics, and even the promise of great characters doesn't overcome my dread of listening to characters have conversations about trade. But I do stand on the idea of "establishing common definitions so that we don't all yell at each other."
So while I haven't seen the series to judge if Holo is a tsundere by anyone's definition, from all art I've seen of her, she definitely isn't a furry characters. At best she has ears and a tail; the furry fandom is into fully anthropomorphic animals, like you'd find in Redwall or Sonic the Hedgehog. I mean, I can run an image of her by my friend who actually writes "furry" stories (not the pornographic type) and see what he thinks, but she's more in synch with the nekomimi model than a full furry. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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I read that comment as more of a joke than anything else. I don't think she was seriously suggesting this show is for furries. |
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matthewlow
Posts: 147 Location: San Ramon, California |
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The collection amazed me not as much for how huge it is (but yes it is huge), but for two reasons, one of which was already mentioned: 3 copies of an artbox for a mosaic... I really need to do that for Suzuka... and I could already do that for Conan, never thought of it. Such a great idea; I usually display the disc spines instead of the artbox. Maybe I'll buy a shelf and avoid attaching the backboard so I can see both sides when I can make an aisle like in this loft. Though I'd like to do my anime viewing in said loft myself.
But the other reason was... it's so NEAT. As in, everything is super organized, nothing seems misplaced. It's like a library, when it first opens. It's inspired me to do that myself when I get the space to do it. I typically describe my collection as a library, but this one is eats mine for dinner. Or maybe just a snack. |
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Loganator456
Posts: 52 Location: Oklahoma |
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