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nargun
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... now that I come to think of it, there's a pretty good case you could make that, these days, setting the film in the US would be more authentic to the milleau of the original work than setting them in japan would be, what with the joint effect of the Lost Decade and the Great Recession. |
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Ryo Hazuki
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How exactly? Neo Tokyo looks closer a Japanese than an American metropolis (I know this sounds redundant). I'll say it again: I don't want Akira anything to do with America's war on terrorism in the 00's unless they rename it George, Osama or something like that. |
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Chibi Buizel
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I've lost all hope of Hollywood making a decent Anime adaption (with the exception of Speed Racer). I'm not going to see this, unless it's gets good reviews.
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enurtsol
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It's set in the future. You can make any place look like anything in the future. |
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Ryo Hazuki
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You don't really answer how setting Akira in the U.S. of A would make it more authentic. |
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Sven Viking
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This may have been beaten to death already, but just in case anybody missed it...
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enurtsol
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I didn't really ask the question. I just said it's possible. |
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GATSU
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Well, as I've noted before, it took ages for X-Men and Spider-Man to get off the ground.
Um, of course it's going to have trouble. Unless you want to count Avatar, how many anti-Iraq movies have done well? So why do you think a WW2 movie where we're guilt-tripped over the bomb would be a hit here? Hell, Slaughter-house 5 was probably one of the most well-known books of its era, and the movie adaptation probably came and went.
Cowboy Bebop's problem is Rothman is attached to it. And Battle Angel ain't happening, because Cameron knows he can't turn it into a tent-pole like his other disposable flicks.
Well, it sucked even for children.
You can find rants about his adaptations on Youtube. vash:
To me, if they can't condense it as well as Otomo, then they've already failed. [And yeah, I'm aware of Steamboy.]
Um, it'd be a 9/11 movie if they remade it. And I had enough problems with the idea when they went that direction with V for Vendetta.
Yeah, no one like that could possibly exist in L.A. or NYC.
So what do you call CTHD and that Mel Jesus movie? Last edited by GATSU on Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:57 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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kow626
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i can agree to an extent. the manga was just way too big and on such a humungous scale that for a live action movie to do it justice, it'd cost an incredible amount of money. advances in cgi could keep costs under control slightly but since there'd be so much of it, it'd be hard to justify anything under, i'd say, $150 mil. there's movies that cost equal or more that don't have what akira would need for it to be authentic. i think an americanized version is just fine. it'd work. just because the manga was in japan don't mean a movie has to be. location isn't that relevant as long as it's a big city. i think new york is perfect. i think the director's are perfectly capable of delivering the goods provided they have the right script to work with. that's where the problems will come from. story quality and cost. for them to do akira justice, i just don't see it being a cheap endeavor. there's just too much going on in that manga. 2 movies is the right way to go. about 2 to 3 hours each would suffice. the manga had a lot of pages but considering a script only utilizes a minute per page, they can get it done easily. most of it is visual anyway. i'm still looking forward to these movies as long as the original material is treated with respect. |
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darkmax
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I tink the film will do well in America, but outside of, it will suck. Akira was never as highly appreciated in Asia as it was in the US. So if they are banging on an international success, boy have they got to do more research.
Also considering how the the theatrical tickets are selling in US the last half year, it will be do better as a straight to video. However, after saying that, I will watch it if it is well done. Never like the anime, the manga was much better. |
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Keonyn
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Cool story, bro. Here's the problem though. That's a subjective opinion, and if all you can respond with is that to define your stance then don't respond, because it adds nothing to the discussion and is borderline trolling. A lot of people liked the movie and it has achieved something of a cult status and got a lot of favorable reviews as well. I'm afraid just saying "well it sucks" doesn't add to this discussion and will only result in a looping "uh huh / nuh uh" argument that we can do without. |
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GATSU
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kow: The anime movie alone was expensive for its time.
Location's relevant for the context of the story. This isn't Ghost in the Shell, where the Japanese city is just where the story happens to take place. The city is actually part of the friggin' story in Akira.
If they can't whittle it down to two hours, it's going to suffer the same fate as Watchmen. darkmax:
Um, are you kidding me? Akira put Kodansha on the map. The only way it won't do well overseas is if they screw it up like they did with DB:E. Keonyn: That isn't an opinion. That's a fact. Otherwise, it'd do at least half as well as Kung Fu Panda and Wall-E that year. Hell, it didn't even do half as well as How to Train Your Dragon; and that film actually had enough good WOM to save it. So I'm guessing the only reason people like Speed Racer is it makes them feel "hip" again after over-hyping the hell out of the first Matrix and then having to defend the sequels. On a related note, I think it's making me more wary finding out one of the Jonah Hex people is involved on Akira. Totally great film, guys. |
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Keonyn
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Opinions aren't fact, they're opinions. Box office and sales numbers also don't mean a damn thing, if they did then we better all find a new hobby because obviously Anime is some of the crappiest crap out there. Also, this is not your "Ask GATSU How Much he Hates Western Media" thread, so stop trying to turn it in to one like you do nearly every other thread that ever so much as mentions western media or culture. Plus, your opinion of Speed Racer is completely irrelevant to Akira, and as I said, attempting to pass your opinion alone as the argument and that arguments support, and then claiming that your opinion is a fact and not an opinion is not only not adding to the discussion, but is also trolling. So keep it on topic and try to actually contribute to the discussion of you'll quickly find you're no longer a part of it. |
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nargun
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What? no, it's all about economics. See, Akira was created at the height of japan's bubble economy... but when you're at the height, everywhere you look you're looking down. So it's set in a time of fairly grim economic depression and stagnation, with free bonus social stratification and disenfranchisement. And the context that Akira was created in has gone, now, in japan. The lost decade happened. But in the US stuff happened, what you've got in the US now more closely models what Akira was reacting to in Japan than modern-day japan does. Realer-than-real, sort of thing. |
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Ryo Hazuki
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nargun: I'm sorry but I still don't see what you're getting at. Do you mean that the 70's was a lost decade for the Japanese or do you mean that the 9/11 is the same as the explosionin Tokyo at the beginning of the series? I would probably have to disagree with you in both examples.
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