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Actually, I believe most sub-only releases are more along the lines of "keep costs low so we don't loose our shirt." Regardless of "going the extra mile", some titles just don't have the sales potential to pay for a dub.

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Actually, I believe most sub-only releases are more along the lines of "keep costs low so we don't loose our shirt." Regardless of "going the extra mile", some titles just don't have the sales potential to pay for a dub.

Technicalities, but the result and general motives of saving money by bare-bonesing and giving the customer less than the industry standard he's come to expect are the same.

For me, this elusive unquantifiable "sales potential" thing would be increased if the series was dubbed. I'd be more in the mood to buy something I haven't seen blind if it was dubbed. Also dubs increase series' rewatchability, and if I know I'm going to want to watch it more than once, this could increase it's "sales potential". However, if I already had seen the series and thought it was great, I'd be buying it either way, because I wanted to own it, regardless of whether it was bilingual or not. Of course then I'd seriously be hoping that there was a future bilingual release I could upgrade to like with Clannad though.

For me, this elusive unquantifiable "sales potential" thing would be increased if the series was dubbed.

If that were the case I'd think they'd dub big name titles like the Hell Girl sequels which have a previously established audience and were aired on TV but thus far that isn't happening (though it still might).

If that were the case I'd think they'd dub big name titles like the Hell Girl sequels which have a previously established audience and were aired on TV but thus far that isn't happening (though it still might). So at what point is title X deemed too risky to add a dub? How do they come up with the facts to determine that? If they think that it's not going to sell that great why not work with only titles they deem to be strong instead if they're so worried about risk? Maybe at this point it's less about quality and more about having a quantity of titles and money to keep them afloat. I really don't want to speak badly about Neo ADV since I like their titles but sometimes I wonder. *shrugs*

In the case of Hell Girl, it's not a particularly popular title. It did have a TV airing, but that was sometime after the DVD release was completed. It was also on a fairly niche cable channel that not a lot of people.

As for sales potential, they have the first season's sales to help give them an estimate. The first seasons sales were "disappointing" enough that Funi passed on season 2, and the retailer returns were brutal. Also, sales for TV shows tend to decline though later seasons, so subbed or dubbed they would likely aleady be lower than the poor sales of season 1.

Richard J. wrote:

GrilledEelHamatsu wrote: You do know that Rightstuf has confirmed that X'am will be dubbed, right? He was talking about Hell Girl. Learn to read. Umm okay. Than much like Clannad, when it gets dubbed, will he still be complaining then? By the way, here's a quote from Robert Brown (Anime Corner Store) about Clannad's dubbed release: Quote: And finally, I wanted to mention that the new dubbed Clannad sets are not only flying off the shelf, but the number of folks upgrading their old sub DVD's for the more expensive dubbed set has really taken us by surprise. . . . . demand has been so heavy we're close to running out of the sets after only one week. We've got more on order from Section 23, and we're hoping they will arrive soon because the demand for the dubbed set has just been crazy! [Considering that the chorus of "FREE ANIME NOW" comes exclusively from the fan-sub loving leeches while English dub fans actually have to buy to support what we want, what you posted really doesn't make a lot of sense. (Also see the above quote.) But hey, I'm sure you guys are always 100% satisfied with everything that comes out of the R1 industry and NEVER EVER post a single complaint about anything right?

Rarely. Only if the DVD is of otherwise poor quality or if I don't like the show. By posting RACS article right there, your stating the hypocricy of hardcore anti-sub fans. I respect dubs. I'll buy anything dubbed or not. I could care less whether a title is billingal or not, it shouldn't make a difference and I'm certainly not about to start soapboxing about it.


I think of it this way. The R1 and R2 market aren't mega corporations. They rarely profit a small tenth of what a 3rd party video game publisher makes in a quarter.

I feel that people should respect the fact that they put hard work into thier releases, whether they choose to buy a sub only release is anyone's choice, but WE are getting so tired of the dub-only fans constant infantile and inane whining and bitching about a lack of a english dub. What, would they rather wait 6 months to a year for the release or waste time buying perishable singles? What harm is there to wait until its complete and re-released as dub? None.

End of story.

Daimao Raki wrote:

Kalessin wrote: Actually, it'd be really cool if a show could be released by both Funimation and Aniplex and we could see how sales differed. I suspect that Aniplex would be creamed. Between how much they sell stuff for (which is at least better than Bandai Visuals but still far worse than everyone else) and where they sell it, they're doing far worse than the rest of the R1 market as far as what the fans are looking for goes. If there were some way for companies to compete with releases of the same show, Aniplex wouldn't stand a chance. That's a no brainer. The Hybrid release would outdo the subbed only. But that would be beyond pointless by both companies.

Likely true. However, it does frustrate me at times that if you want to buy a particular show, you're stuck dealing with however the one company that has it chooses to release it. You can't go to another company to buy it because they treated it better. You're at the whim of whoever releases it. You either buy it the way that they're releasing it, or you don't buy it.

Everyone please enjoy your Ranma87-free summertime.

Sit back, relax, have a cool glass of lemonade and feel that soft summer breeze wash over you. Watch the kids jump into the ol' swimmin' hole, enjoy a fresh slice of cold watermelon and mediate to the soft creaking of your trusty porch rocking chair, all to the melodious sound of no Ranma87.

I personally don't care. Hybrid or Sub only releases are good enough for me. I just want good audio/video and an accurate translation.

However, I'm slightly annoyed that I just bought the second season of Ghost Hound, and then they have to go and announce the Blu-ray release. I think I might watch the fansubs first, and then if I like the show, sell my unopened DVDs, and then put in an order for the Blu-ray. I don't really want to double dip yet on a show I don't know anything about.