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Ingraman



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:43 pm Reply with quote
Julia-the-Great wrote:
Oh, life is so unfair! You can't just tease us by presenting us with something of sheer awesomeness like Star Trekker


Star Trekker _is_ awesome. ^_^

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and then tell us that we'll never be able to find it anywhere! :( My poor Trekkie heart aches that I cannot read it.


It probably doesn't help you that I found a copy of the trade paperback on my bookshelf. ;p Before it ended up there, I found the copy long long ago at my local comic shop. The copyright information seems to indicate that it was published 1991, and I probably purchased it not too long afterwards. I'm only remembering one issue of Star Trekker in comic pamphlet form before it was canned, but my comic boxes are awkwardly placed to see if I picked up more than the first issue (I did buy two copies of at least the first issue by mail order direct from AP, because Paramount was after Antarctic Press by that time).

Highlights for me: Leading Vulcan 'Spack' doing his Vulcan training with Yoda.

Lt. Aya taking the Kobayashi Maru test with Enterprise members as her bridge crew in the simulation deciding to destroy the Kobayashi Maru (to give them a merciful death that the Klingons would deny them) after seeing that she can't save them, which brings Kirk in to reprimand her. ^_^;

Spack chasing skirts while in heat/Pon Farr.

Aya using her last ditch 'weapon' against a Klingon ship in combat: a God Soldier (from Nausicäa) in Starfleet uniform kneeling out the door of the hanger at the rear of her ship.

After encountering the STIV alien probe (and drifting for ~3 weeks as a result), she speaks to the Federation Council to advocate attacking it. When she's turned down she cries out (as translated anyway, including the '*'s) "You Starfleet commanders are all a bunch of sh*th**ds!!!" to the assembled members. A couple of panels later, we get Kirk (having watched a recording of the meeting) saying "Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Typical of her to call Starfleet Command **i**ea**!" and McCoy follows up with "If that's so, Jim, then it would seem that you're the Admiral of the sh*th**ds."

And lots more... ^_^;;

This is one of my favorites from my collection, even if I've never been a Star Trek otaku/Trekker/Trekkie.
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Adonisus



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:42 pm Reply with quote
I can't BELIEVE that you forgot one of the best examples of japanese artists successfully crossing over to American comics......Kia Asamiya's Batman: Child of Dreams!.
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ptolemy18
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:03 pm Reply with quote
Julia-the-Great wrote:
Oh, life is so unfair! You can't just tease us by presenting us with something of sheer awesomeness like Star Trekker and then tell us that we'll never be able to find it anywhere! Sad My poor Trekkie heart aches that I cannot read it.


Sorry I couldn't show more of the artwork! You might be able to find a copy out there somewhere, somewhere....
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TheRoyalFamily



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:16 pm Reply with quote
Heh, the Star Trekker sounds like it could almost be a serious Star Trek thing, if you took out the zaney stuff.

Although it might get in trouble with the fanship police for the name. I saw the "rules" once for that kind of stuff. Star Trek fandom is serious business.
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Annf



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:32 pm Reply with quote
ptolemy18 wrote:
"All derivative doujinshi" would have been a better way to put it.

Actually, change it from "all" to "most." Smile
Some some rights holders (mainly adult PC game companies and original doujin/indie creators) give explicit permission for derivative works on their websites.

It's extremely rare for anything else (e.g. TV anime), though.
A long time ago, Media Works used to have a doujin permission page, but it went away after their merger with ASCII.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:38 pm Reply with quote
Annf wrote:
ptolemy18 wrote:
"All derivative doujinshi" would have been a better way to put it.

Actually, change it from "all" to "most." Smile
Some some rights holders (mainly adult PC game companies and original doujin/indie creators) give explicit permission for derivative works on their websites.


And then there's the anthology books which are basically collections of dojinshi, or solicited ("draw stuff for us!") dojinshi.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:45 pm Reply with quote
Adonisus wrote:
I can't BELIEVE that you forgot one of the best examples of japanese artists successfully crossing over to American comics......Kia Asamiya's Batman: Child of Dreams!.


Batman: Child of Dreams was pretty good. I like how Asamiya got around not being able to make changes to the Batman continuity by having all of Batman's classic villains show up as delusional people pretending to be them.

Too bad Masakazu Katsura never drew a Batman comic, but I get the impression he was more skeptical about the long-term point of drawing someone else's character. (Which, presumably, is why he ended up creating his own superhero, Zetman.) William Flanagan and I interviewed him years ago at Comic-Con and asked him if he wanted to draw Batman, since Batman shows up in Video Girl Ai. He said something like "Well, of course I'd be interested, but I'm not going to go up to DC and ask them to let me draw him. They'd have to be the ones to come to me."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:51 pm Reply with quote
For those who wanted to see some more art from these books, I've posted a page from Star Trekker here:

http://twitpic.com/21nun6
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sirkoala13



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:02 pm Reply with quote
Dangit, I have to find Star Trekkers. I'm a reformed scanlation reader, but for something as cool looking as Star Trekker, I'm willing to go back, if necessary.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:05 am Reply with quote
littlegreenwolf wrote:
Really, all that manga and the best examples of Japanese manga on Western Pop Culture you could list were a few random Batman comics? What about Yoshitaka Amano's venture into Elektra & Wolverine (or his other projects with Neil Gaiman), or the tons of Star Wars manga released by Dark Horse with manga-ka like Shin-ichi Hiromoto they sold along with their regular Star Wars comics? Or even the Darren Shan/Cique du Freak series which was so huge in Japan it warranted a manga for Japanese audiences?

There was also an official Interview with the Vampire comic released in Japan, though it never made it over here.


I guess you could add Yūji Iwahara to that list as well. IIRC, he did some (minor) work for Marvel. But, here's the kicker, look whose look-alike played a role in a manga published by CMX:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:04 am Reply with quote
ptolemy18 wrote:
My mind was stuck on superhero comics.


Ah Superhero comics. As a girl who loved Supergirl for a short period after I grew out of Betty and Veronica at age 8. I still wait for an official Supergirl shoujo manga. Why have you failed me Japan?

I avoid doujinshi with this sort of thing because you never know what you're going to get with doujin unless you see it before buying, and I rather not be scarred for life with accidentally getting some tentacle porn of Kara.

ptolemy18 wrote:
Moyoko Anno did illustrations for a Japanese novelization of Kevin Smith's movie "Chasing Amy," which sadly never got translated.


Oh man, you already have me randomly looking up old out of print domestic titles I've missed, but now you're going to have me looking to add a new title to my odd group of books in Japanese that go from R.R Martin's Song of Ice and Fire to Animorphs?

If you tell me Moyoko Anno has an illustration in there of Jay and Silent Bob done in her cutsey shoujo style you will have me sold on it and looking it up today.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:25 am Reply with quote
Oh gosh, this brings back memories. I think I still have my old copy of 'Justice' somewhere. Provided no one stole it. Like they did with everything else at my old haunt. Mad
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rockman nes



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:57 pm Reply with quote
Jason Thompson wrote:
It's the same argument I've heard countless times from American fanboys defending the immortal, unaging, boring characters of American superhero comics


Okay, I'm not gonna lie.

This made me rage a little. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:45 pm Reply with quote
rockman nes wrote:
Jason Thompson wrote:
It's the same argument I've heard countless times from American fanboys defending the immortal, unaging, boring characters of American superhero comics


Okay, I'm not gonna lie.

This made me rage a little. Evil or Very Mad


Well, it's sort of true. If you think about it it wasn't until the 80s that we were given any superheros outside of Batman in the mainstream that had any sort of complexity. For example just look at Superman. You don't get much more boring than that. Always a good guy, always saving the day. Total boyscout. Boring, especially when the comic just focuses on how he saves the day from the bad guy of the week, leaving very little room for any sort of character development from anyone in the comic.

Don't even get me started on the female superheroes. Ugh. I had lost all hope for American comics until I stumbled across Sandman in high school. Until that point the only stuff I had options with in concern to female leads were Betty and Veronica (shallow and below my age level), Selena Kyle/Catwoman (theif), Lara Croft (British theif) and well... any other big breasted pin-up the comic industry decided to make a comic out of. It's no wonder as to why America doesn't have more girls into comics.
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rockman nes



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:25 pm Reply with quote
littlegreenwolf wrote:
For example just look at Superman. You don't get much more boring than that. Always a good guy, always saving the day. Total boyscout. Boring, especially when the comic just focuses on how he saves the day from the bad guy of the week, leaving very little room for any sort of character development from anyone in the comic


Like... 90% of anime/manga characters?..
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