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NEWS: Right Stuf's Nozomi Adds So-ra-no-Wo-to, Utena TV

J-Syxx wrote:

Quark wrote: poehitman wrote: Oh noes, sub only Okay, we get it, you don't want to buy 'glorified fansubs.' You keep stating it over and over again that you hate Nozomi, and you hate sub-only disks. So why waste your time, and ours by repeatedly coming in here and trashing a company that has a very devoted fanbase? Go watch your precious fansubs, and leave the rest of us to be happy about the new Nozomi licenses. The Utena DVDs are going to have a dub, so why are you even having this conversation with him?

Apparantly So-ra-no-Wo-to isn't getting a dub, which has led to his complaining about the no dub. But, going by the fact that half his 'collection' is burned disks, and he won't buy anything over $10, he probably wouldn't have bought the series anyway.
You're right though, I should have ignored it, and instead focused on the awesome news of finally being able to get my hands on a complete set of remastered Utena, and So-ra-no-Wo-to (which I have no clue about, but will buy, because Nozomi rocks my socks)

My problem isn't just with Sora no Woto. It's with Nozomi, which used to be a good company that did original dubs, but has degenerated into a company that only does rehashes of old dubs and glorified fansub releases. They ruin a title from possibly having a dub down the road by licensing it and releasing it as a glorified fansub. Nozomi isn't going to license it to someone else to dub it because it would eat into their glorified fansub dvd sales since the dub would also have a sub-only track. I cringe when I hear Nozomi has licensed an anime I love because I know they just killed any chance of that anime ever getting a dub.

Ingraman wrote:

It's hardly "to [go?] straight back to" when the episodes are a week apart, and some people feel that drama needs to be offset with something a little lighter (especially given where the story headed off to the following episode). The episode wasn't entirely about needing to get to the bathroom (that was just a small element of it). I didn't see it as a case of ""lol she wants to pee"", but rather that she took her job seriously, and didn't want to be the one to cause issues with HQ during the one time a year that HQ pays any attention to their outpost.

I wouldn't say "it's hardly [jarring?] to go straight back to" because episode 7 provided a pivotal turn in the mood of the series.

And you know what? I wouldn't have minded episode 8 with all its troubles, if Kanata spoiler[hadn't gone and pissed herself].But after that it was purely appealing to weird fetishes out there and no longer about her duty.

Aside its appealing premise and production values, there is something else that excites me about the news regarding So-ra-no-Wo-to.

Now that it has been licensed for physical distribution, I can now rest safe in the knowledge that Crunchyroll is not merely the place to which series are cosigned if they aren't sufficiently popular for a DVD release.

My problem isn't just with Sora no Woto. It's with Nozomi, which used to be a good company that did original dubs, but has degenerated into a company that only does rehashes of old dubs and glorified fansub releases.

I cringe when I hear Nozomi has licensed an anime I love because I know they just killed any chance of that anime ever getting a dub.

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I cringe when I hear Nozomi has licensed an anime I love because I know they just killed any chance of that anime ever getting a dub.

Blame Funimation, ADV, or one of the other companies for not picking up Soranowoto, then. Unless the Japanese producers of the series went straight to Nozomi and told them to release it in the US, any of the other companies could have licensed it. Don't blame Nozomi.

I guess the bigger issue is that they aren't interested in doing BD releases. It's too bad, because I'd love to own a good BD copy of SnW.

Ingraman wrote:

Quote: I cringe when I hear Nozomi has licensed an anime I love because I know they just killed any chance of that anime ever getting a dub. Blame Funimation, ADV, or one of the other companies for not picking up Soranowoto, then. Unless the Japanese producers of the series went straight to Nozomi and told them to release it in the US, any of the other companies could have licensed it. Don't blame Nozomi.

Or blame the size of the market, because if the market would sustain the dub, Funimation, Sentai/Section23, or Viz would have picked it up for a hybrid release.

RightStuf makes money either way, so Nozomi is not in the business of trying to outbid for licenses that some other company has interest in. Their focus is on titles that would otherwise not be licensed for R1 release.

If you know about the market, then you know the market is fluid. It's always changing. An anime may pick up popularity later on due to something happening in Japan. Maybe a really popular sequel is released and it would then be profitable to dub the first series, but with Nozomi holding the license, it will never be done.

If you know about the market, then you know the market is fluid. It's always changing. An anime may pick up popularity later on due to something happening in Japan. Maybe a really popular sequel is released and it would then be profitable to dub the first series, but with Nozomi holding the license, it will never be done.

poehitman wrote:

If you know about the market, then you know the market is fluid. It's always changing. An anime may pick up popularity later on due to something happening in Japan. Maybe a really popular sequel is released and it would then be profitable to dub the first series, but with Nozomi holding the license, it will never be done.

IMO, losing 9 sub-only releases because an unpredictable 1 out of 10 might see a favorable shift in buzz to allow it to a crack at a dub is not a winning deal.

And that scenario implies more delays in releases versus Japanese release.

Its not like the drop in the share of titles produced for hybrid release was based on some grand theory sweeping the industry ... it was the experience of a number of hydrid releases not earning back their dubbing costs.

And, realistically, which are the dub-candidate releases are you talking about? Sora no Woto? Marimite? Aria? Emma?

Regardless of semantics, the fact remains the same. Most dub fans will not buy a sub-only release. My experiences with "official" sub-only releases show them the quality of the translation to be suspect.

Is it that a company rep actually said Nozomi will be releasing DVD only, or that no one has yet announced that BD will be an option?