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NEWS: Sengoku Basara Two Debut Sets Anime Record in Timeslot




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vashfanatic



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:27 am Reply with quote
Um, so when is the "simulcast" going up?? I've been checking Funimation's page and hulu regularly since yesterday; how long a delay is there going to be? I mean, I don't need it within the hour or anything, a day or two is fine, but if would be nice to know when to look for it.
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Daimao Raki



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:05 pm Reply with quote
Wow over 20k copies a piece for the volumes of season 1? Good lord that's money in the bank.
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xanithofdragons



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:55 pm Reply with quote
I'm also wondering when Funimation's planning to put that episode up. Even something less vague than "this month" would be nice. How do they expect people to watch their streams if we don't know when they're going up?

That aside, I'm really hoping that some of the people who called this timeslot a risky move when it was first announced learned that they have no idea what's popular in Japan. Now I just hope it can get a dedicated fanbase outside of Japan. I'm already planning on buying SenBasa 3 when it comes out in NA and the dvd release for Season 1.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:59 pm Reply with quote
Wow, each DVD volume really sold over 20k copies? Now I'm not sure I understand how the Japanese DVD market works, I figured it was that nearly everybody buys the DVD the first week and then diminishing returns thereafter, but considering that most Sengoku Basara DVDs only sold 6k-8k copies the first week, that means that more than half of the copies sold were done so after the first week.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:57 pm Reply with quote
I have to wonder where that 20,000 per dvd figure came from. I've found the same claim in Japanese reports on setting this ratings record, but every prior piece of sales information I've seen online said 12000 something for the first volume. Frankly, it smells a little fishy. The show did well, but not that well. So where did the phantom sales come from? I think a PR monkey may have gotten a little over-excited.

Sengoku BASARA
2009/07/01 12,014 Sono Ichi
2009/08/05 *8,835 Sono Ni
2009/09/02 *7,125 Sono San
2009/10/07 *8,322 Sono Yon
2009/11/04 *7,388 Sono Go
2009/12/02 *6,567 Sono Roku
2010/01/06 *8,717 Sono Nana
2010/06/25 ***739 Blu-ray BOX

And what's with the low sales on the blu-ray box? Guess the rekijo aren't into blu-ray and already have the dvds.
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Egan Loo



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:14 pm Reply with quote
hissatsu01 wrote:
I have to wonder where that 20,000 per dvd figure came from. I've found the same claim in Japanese reports on setting this ratings record, but every prior piece of sales information I've seen online said 12000 something for the first volume. Frankly, it smells a little fishy. The show did well, but not that well. So where did the phantom sales come from? I think a PR monkey may have gotten a little over-excited.

Sengoku BASARA
2009/07/01 12,014 Sono Ichi
2009/08/05 *8,835 Sono Ni
2009/09/02 *7,125 Sono San
2009/10/07 *8,322 Sono Yon
2009/11/04 *7,388 Sono Go
2009/12/02 *6,567 Sono Roku
2010/01/06 *8,717 Sono Nana
2010/06/25 ***739 Blu-ray BOX

And what's with the low sales on the blu-ray box? Guess the rekijo aren't into blu-ray and already have the dvds.


The unofficial sales figures above are incomplete, and represent only the first few weeks of sales at best. For example, "Sono San" (Sengoku Basara Volume III) sold 7,125 copies just in its first week alone. Simlarly, "Sono Roku" (Sengoku Basara Volume VI) sold 6,567 copies just in its first week alone.

Ask the person providing these unofficial stats to attach a disclaimer so more people are not misled.
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hissatsu01



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:06 am Reply with quote
But just about all anime in Japan does ~70-80% (or more) of its sales in the first week. Anime for the most part doesn't have "legs." To sell more than twice as much after the first week is almost unheard of aside from things like Eva and Miyazaki movies. I can't find any source in Japanese or English showing 20,000+ copies sold for each volume of Sengoku Basara, aside from stories reporting setting the ratings record.

Even ANN's own reports of anime sales show each volume of Sengoku Basara dropping a great deal the second week and disappearing entirely from the charts the third week. All the volumes seem to show the same (normal) pattern of doing almost all their sales the first week, selling a few hundred more copies the next week (low enough that numbers aren't given), and maybe a feeble trickle after that. How did it manage to sell 20,000+ per volume yet not have all the volumes show up in the lists of top selling anime DVDs for 2009? This 20,000 figure just doesn't make any sense.
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