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GrilledEelHamatsu
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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 Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:41 pm
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| Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote: |
| GrilledEelHamatsu wrote: |
| megafilipe wrote: | | wtf, is sega drunk?
half of the nds games have the characters controlled by stylus, they just choose to hit one with great profit for sega monies |
No.
Have you ever seen thier patents?
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8172678.html
See how none of its descriptions are discrete or specific? |
Here is me giving a f*** by showing off some gruesome deaths from resident evil 2.
[url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxskG3g9gn8
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I am going to invent something called a car and it will have a steering wheel. However I'm going to patent the round design on the wheel so only my car model brand/name can use them. It's the same damn b.s. that apple did with Samsung but in all reality I don't care anymore. |
Apple is guilty of corporate slander and strong arming. SEGA's patent descriptions are as confusing as the architecture of the Sega Saturn.
SEGA's patents are vague for a reason. They don't want others trying to variate their ideas.
Nintendo was actually caught in the headlights regarding the design of Gamepad last year. They discovered that its prototypes functions were similar to the VMU, so they changed it.(Like I said, Wii's accessories ripped off the Dreamcast. The remote was actually being co-developed by Midway and SEGA back in 2000, and the Zapper is a blatant rip-off of Dreamcast's lightgun.)
http://the-dreamcast-junkyard.blogspot.com/2008/01/unreleased-dreamcast-motion-controls-by.html
Yes folks, even Nintendo is GUILTY of plagiarism and patent infringement.
SEGA was forced to renew ALL the rights to Dreamcast back in '07 because of Wii.
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ikillchicken
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:52 pm
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Huh. I didn't know "Sega fanboy" was still a thing.
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GrilledEelHamatsu
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:56 pm
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| ikillchicken wrote: | | Huh. I didn't know "Sega fanboy" was still a thing. |
This are facts. Not fanboyism.
Like I said, SEGA RARELY files lawsuits. So this means they have a legit motive.
And yes, Wii stole ideas and accessories from Dreamcast. Nintendo got away with it because the patents for DC's accessories were inactive during Wii's development.
Dreamcast's patents,name,IPs are now STEADFASTLY protected by Kabushiki Kaisha Sega as well as Saturn's.
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
Joined: 02 Apr 2011
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Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:01 pm
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| GrilledEelHamatsu wrote: |
| Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote: |
| GrilledEelHamatsu wrote: |
| megafilipe wrote: | | wtf, is sega drunk?
half of the nds games have the characters controlled by stylus, they just choose to hit one with great profit for sega monies |
No.
Have you ever seen thier patents?
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8172678.html
See how none of its descriptions are discrete or specific? |
Here is me giving a f*** by showing off some gruesome deaths from resident evil 2.
[url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxskG3g9gn8
[/url]
I am going to invent something called a car and it will have a steering wheel. However I'm going to patent the round design on the wheel so only my car model brand/name can use them. It's the same damn b.s. that apple did with Samsung but in all reality I don't care anymore. |
Apple is guilty of corporate slander and strong arming. SEGA's patent descriptions are as confusing as the architecture of the Sega Saturn.
SEGA's patents are vague for a reason. They don't want others trying to variate their ideas.
Nintendo was actually caught in the headlights regarding the design of Gamepad last year. They discovered that its prototypes functions were similar to the VMU, so they changed it.(Like I said, Wii's accessories ripped off the Dreamcast. The remote was actually being co-developed by Midway and SEGA back in 2000, and the Zapper is a blatant rip-off of Dreamcast's lightgun.)
http://the-dreamcast-junkyard.blogspot.com/2008/01/unreleased-dreamcast-motion-controls-by.html
Yes folks, even Nintendo is GUILTY of plagiarism and patent infringement.
SEGA was forced to renew ALL the rights to Dreamcast back in '07 because of Wii. |
Hmm maybe I need read deeper down the rabbit on this, still on the subject at hand It's nothing new.
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Primus
Joined: 01 Mar 2006
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Location: Toronto
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:10 pm
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| Conan-san wrote: | | Yeah, that's what's going to cause all hell to break loose.
Where are they getting 8 games from, though?
I'm counting 1 for IE 1, 2 for IE 2, another 2 for IE 3 and again for IE 4 (GO!) making for 7 games.
What should Sega care if Strikers exists? Not a damn bit in that game that uses touch screen. |
They're probably counting Inazuma Eleven 3 Ogre as a separate game. Or maybe they're after Level-5 for one of the mobile Inazuma Eleven games?
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Rahxephon91
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:14 pm
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| Rahxephon91 wrote: | | Hopefully this kills Level 5. It won't , but I still want them to stop. |
well Level 5 made some of the best games ever like Dragon quest 8, and Rogue Galaxy, yeah totally want them to go down |
Well I won't give them all the credit for DQVIII, because they don't deserve it. Plus I don't like DQ so this means nothing to me.
Rogue Galaxy, like pretty much all thier rpgs is style over any substance. It's a terrible game with great graphics. Really ho-hum and lame story with pretty bad gameplay that goes on far too long. It may have it's fans, but I doubt it has ever been considered a jrpg classic and for good reason.
Outside of that they have made the terribly frogetable White Knight Chronicles that did'nt even have decent graphics to make up for how medicore everything else was. Not a notable character in sight and the most boring timing based mmo like combat ever.
And Ni No Kuni is hardly anything either. Ounce you look past the great graphics you have something very vapid. Something trying to mimic a ghibli movie, but couldn't if it really tried. And jesus again the gameplay might as well not exsist thanks to how shallow and easy it is.
Lets not talk about what they did to Gundam.
I'm not the target group of IE, nor do I care about the subject material, so I've never played them. Layton is a puzzle game, so I don't care.
As an jrpg developer I find them incredibly overrated and pretty terrible. I would'nt miss them at all.
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| Rahxephon91 wrote: | | Hopefully this kills Level 5. It won't , but I still want them to stop. |
Did L5 kill your dog and burn your house? Just wondering. |
No, but they have tricked me into playing their terrible jrpgs and somehow made the world believe they were hot crap. But hey these past two years have been pretty terrible for them so hopefully people start seeing them in a new light. Only other jrpg developer I hate more is Gust for peddling everything I hate about Japan, but I get that I'm just not that audience.
It's pretty crazy they basically made a Ghibli game and it somehow bombed twice.
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Ryu Shoji
Joined: 15 Jul 2009
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:20 pm
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Why were SEGA even granted such a crazy patent? Brb, patenting the letter "E", then suing everyone.
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Rahxephon91
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:23 pm
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| Ryu Shoji wrote: | | Why were SEGA even granted such a crazy patent? Brb, patenting the letter "E", then suing everyone. |
Did you know that Namco has the patent for haveing mini-games play while something is loading as seen in Tekken 5.
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Crisha
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:28 pm
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| Ryu Shoji wrote: | | Why were SEGA even granted such a crazy patent? Brb, patenting the letter "E", then suing everyone. |
Hit m3 with your b3st shot. 
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GrilledEelHamatsu
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:36 pm
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| Ryu Shoji wrote: | | Why were SEGA even granted such a crazy patent? Brb, patenting the letter "E", then suing everyone. |
Sega's patents are a mystery. They either are non-discrete, too vague, too convoluted or an unrelated variation of someone else's idea.
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bradc
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:02 pm
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| ikillchicken wrote: | | Huh. I didn't know "Sega fanboy" was still a thing. |
Used to. Long long time ago.... Sega no longer produce the game consoles, only as a game makers now. Suing Level 5 is such a wrong move consider new game makers are doing better than they are. Like everyone else pointed out is as stupid as Apple suing Samsung, and pay back is a bitch.
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sailorneorune
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:28 pm
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First, Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed on 3DS is delayed. Now, this. Congratulations, Sega, you have officially pissed me off today.
Have a cookie. 
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kgw
Joined: 22 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:40 pm
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| Rahxephon91 wrote: | | No, but they have tricked me into playing their terrible jrpgs and somehow made the world believe they were hot crap. But hey these past two years have been pretty terrible for them so hopefully people start seeing them in a new light. Only other jrpg developer I hate more is Gust for peddling everything I hate about Japan, but I get that I'm just not that audience. |
So, instead of killing your dog, they made games everybody liked but you... and Gust made games not for you. I think that sums it all up.
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GrilledEelHamatsu
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:45 pm
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| bradc wrote: |
| ikillchicken wrote: | | Huh. I didn't know "Sega fanboy" was still a thing. |
Used to. Long long time ago.... Sega no longer produce the game consoles, only as a game makers now. Suing Level 5 is such a wrong move consider new game makers are doing better than they are. Like everyone else pointed out is as stupid as Apple suing Samsung, and pay back is a bitch. |
Umm..No. They aren't just making games. And they are worth $20 billion.
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bradc
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:55 pm
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| GrilledEelHamatsu wrote: |
| bradc wrote: |
| ikillchicken wrote: | | Huh. I didn't know "Sega fanboy" was still a thing. |
Used to. Long long time ago.... Sega no longer produce the game consoles, only as a game makers now. Suing Level 5 is such a wrong move consider new game makers are doing better than they are. Like everyone else pointed out is as stupid as Apple suing Samsung, and pay back is a bitch. |
Umm..No. They aren't just making games. And they are worth $20 billion. |
Sega died eons ago; at least its game console did, But the Sega games never caught up with Play Station when Dream Cast faded out of the market. It's still making money from its grave, and so it decided to sue for more. Patent copyright can last for so long,
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