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Captain Crotchspike



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:36 am Reply with quote
Arizona sure has been in the news a lot lately, huh?

Still, I guess this worked out for them one way or another, since I certainly hadn't heard of the place before now. Well, er, I'm not into sushi myself, but I suppose the next time somebody brings it up, this incident will probably be the first thing to spring to mind...
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Dargonxtc



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:37 am Reply with quote
To be honest, she is carrying two pistols. Considering the state of violence that is occurring in the southern part of the State, not to mention largely in all other parts, it is not so shocking.

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Chittenden also suggested that the PPTD was applying its guidelines in an inconsistent manner; they have displayed advertisements for gun shows and violent movies.

Er... haven't seen those ads but I doubt they depict someone pointing a weapon in an aggressive manner (as like another person).

Though perhaps a movie poster might fit the bill, but I doubt a gun show ad would.
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InnocentSorrow59



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:26 am Reply with quote
That's kind of stupid. I'm pretty sure there have been more "offensive" ads around there. Movie ads and ads for designer clothing aren't exactly always so great.
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ishmael



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:29 am Reply with quote
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The PPTD suggested the restaurant lengthen the character's skirt and holster her weapons


The length of the skirt is a problem?

Ridiculous. Are we in 1950, back when short skirts were obscene? As for the guns, I might understand the point, but I'm sure some movie ads are just as "threatening" and not censored.
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serrin
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:27 am Reply with quote
Regardless of what happens, isn't the best sort of advertising? This has given the restaurant more exposure than some pictures on a bus would have achieved in a decade.
Nothing beats the Streisand effect.
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bleachigo66



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:28 am Reply with quote
Dargonxtc wrote:
To be honest, she is carrying two pistols. Considering the state of violence that is occurring in the southern part of the State, not to mention largely in all other parts, it is not so shocking.


Already mentioned in the article, but
lol this being the state that you cant drive five miles without seeing a billboard for a gun show! Laughing -lives in Phoenix-
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Dark Paladin X



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:23 am Reply with quote
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Bryan Chittenden, co-owner of the restaurant, said that the staff "never thought [the ad] was going to be controversial at all." He noted that a similar Suzi Stingray ad was visible on a billboard in the area, and that the restaurant has not received any complaints about the ad's content. Chittenden also suggested that the PPTD was applying its guidelines in an inconsistent manner; the PPTD hs displayed advertisements for gun shows and violent movies.


I agree with this statement, this is a double standard. Why would a public transportation department reject an anime-style sushi ad that features a loli wearing a zettai ryouiki and twin pigtails (and probably tsundere) and wielding akimbo pistols/machine pistols while they accept ads of a very violent zombie movie or gun shows? I think this is a big issue of freedom of speech (First Amendment). This is a issue between public security and freedom of speech (showing a picture of an anime-styled loli wearing a mini-skirt and using akimbo pistols isn't threatening and falls under free speech. But if there was some message telling someone to incite violence against someone, then that's another thing).

Personally, I don't see anything offensive at all. They are just demostrating the art of Japanese anime culture. It's pretty harmless.
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lhernan02



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:46 am Reply with quote
I hope Dark Paladin X was being sarcastic, this is not something to get worked up about, this was just a very efficient ad campaign on the cheap.

Point 1) The bus-stop ad is "off mark" compared to the billboard ad. The girl is facing forward thus the "panty peek" might be considered more sexual and the pointing hand has a gun, not a martini.
Point 2) The bus-stop ad breaks PPTD the rules, but is not offensive, therefore it would be turned down, but could be broadcast.
Sidenote 1) 80%+ of local restaurants fail in their first year of operation therefore money is tight and critical mass is imperative.
Answer: They spent a few C-notes on the bus-stop ad, got it turned down, called the local newspapers/TV stations and got a few grand of free advertisiting. Everyone wins, everyone is happy!
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Guren Alchemist4



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:18 am Reply with quote
This coming from a state that allows people over 21 to carry concealed weapons without a permit (except in bars and the like). lol And they get up in arms over a picture. Ridiculous.
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Dark Paladin X



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:20 am Reply with quote
lhernan02 wrote:
I hope Dark Paladin X was being sarcastic.


Apparently, I wasn't. This is mostly an issue of free speech here. Unless if you want to show me some PPTD bus ads of violent films and gun shows and compare it to the anime-style sushi ad, then, I'll give more comments.
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ericadodd



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:26 am Reply with quote
Wow Arizona....just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber....makes me afraid of the future of human beings when I see people that act this stupid Shocked
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Keonyn
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:33 am Reply with quote
Sadly it is not an issue of free speech, even though I do certainly agree that PPTD is being far too anal about that ad. Still, the space the ad would be posted is privately owned by PPTD, therefore it is their right to accept or reject whatever they wish so long as the images they do select don't violate any laws. If it was a public space in which anyone could post an image, then yes, its removal would be a free speech issue. It's just like how this forum is part of ANN, so if someone posted pornographic images we would have the right to remove them.

None the less, it's still completely BS this was taken down. It's a cartoon image so that already softens the "vulgar" nature of it. I mean, I sure hope they don't put up ads with girls in swimsuits on them or anything, because those are far more revealing than that monochrome skirt/panty combo with absolutely nil detail. The guns are pretty minor as well, and movie ads are very often more threatening with violence than this image. I'm honestly not buying the excuse, and kind of wonder if they just didn't want to toss up a fanservicey anime image on their bus stops and came up with a reason to say no.

I really wonder how many people they had to interview before finding the girl that agreed with the PPTD's stance. I doubt many people would really be offended or disturbed by that image. Of course, it was telling that the girl would use the term "conservative"; honestly, that's all I needed to hear.
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Ares_EMS



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:35 am Reply with quote
I don't see what is so vulgar about it, but then again, I'm sure I could have picked a better ad to use if I was going to advertise a sushi restaurant. Cause I sure do see a lot of high school loli girls packing heat when I visit my local sushi shop.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:58 am Reply with quote
I'm thinking this could be an example of anti-anime bias from people who may never have actually seen anime. I've seen adds in Arizona much more graphic than this.

Most of us aren't going to find the add offensive, but if the people who made this decision are only aware of negative stereotypes it wouldn't be terribly surprising that they turned the add down.

Of course, we are talking about Arizona. I worked in Arizona for awhile, and I love the place, but Arizona politics suck, and the attitudes of some Arizonans are worse. We're talking Conservative, with a capital C. Sadly, that often means repressed imagination.

It's an awesome place, though.
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nhat



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:03 am Reply with quote
Yeah I agree chefneer with the anime bias. I'm sure the person looking at the ad only thought that anime was hentai or just pure violence.
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