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ANNCast - Viewers Like You V: Battle for the Planet of the Apes

darkchibi07 wrote:

Quote: Quote: ... we might as well include K-ON, Aria, Ga-rei Zero, or Hitohira for that matter. ... ... and, not surprisingly, Erica often reports the Japanese language yuri forums counting several of those as yuri, even if she reckons the yuri in Aria and K-ON! is only there by projection. ...just makes the Japanese grasping straws. ...

Of course, the creators often hand out straws to grasp at.

There is the concept of insertion fantasy, and part of the ambiguity can be a way of pooling together quite distinct markets ~ some of which may not support a manga title or anime series on their own. You have the women and girls who have a range of characters to insert themselves into the place of ~ and some want there to not be any actual yuri, some of them want there to be, and some are OK if its "cool" yuri in some undefined way I am sure I would never understand; the boys and overaged boys who insert themselves in after the girls have their "experimental" love and prefer the lack of male competition; the men who are sick and tired of the pathetic protagonists holding the spot they are supposed to insert themselves into and want something to unwind after a hard day's work without being told who to identify with.

mdo7, when did you come to the US?

agila61 wrote:

There is the concept of insertion fantasy, and part of the ambiguity can be a way of pooling together quite distinct markets ... the men who are sick and tired of the pathetic protagonists holding the spot they are supposed to insert themselves into and want something to unwind after a hard day's work without being told who to identify with.

What about being a "spectator of love"; the person who just wants to see two people fall in love and do romantic things without inserting yourself in the scene? ...

Oh, mdo7, I was confused. Your lack of plural usage made me think you were Russian or something. I apologize.

On another note, I've noticed when most yuri goes to the smutty route (maybe on a similar degree as smutty yaoi), it happens on series with guys around and/or have ridiculously over-the-top fanservice like Seikon no Qwaser or Queen's Blade respectively.

darkchibi07 wrote:

On another note, I've noticed when most yuri goes to the smutty route (maybe on a similar degree as smutty yaoi), it happens on series with guys around and/or have ridiculously over-the-top fanservice like Seikon no Qwaser or Queen's Blade respectively.

While this certainly is true, things seem to be quite different on the manga side. Have you read Octave (which I love, btw)? An anime adaptation for this is a longshot though.

But seriously what I noted bothers me (worst case scenario is killing off the lesbian couple) ...

and God bless all the nerds in our military, too.
I didn't know the otaku culture was so strong in our armed forces.