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BeanBandit
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I understand were your coming from but I guess for me I would rather just read and hear about it through writers such yourself then actually sitting through these shows myself as, despite the curiosities you mentioned, they simply don't grab me. Kinda like the AwO show you guys did with Odin, great to hear you guys talk about how bad it was, but not actually a fun movie to actually sit through, even to make fun of. |
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PBsallad
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Fantastic article.
I just recently finished Zeta Gundam and liked it a lot. With Gundam on my mind this was a real treat to read. 
There's a Bandai sale at Right Stuf too... I'm debating on what Gundam show/movie I should get. Something I haven't seen before like 0083: SM, 0080, F91, and the orignal series movies (I've seen the show just not the movies). Or get CCA. *sigh* I'm going to probably throw in Outlaw Star too and maybe on of those blind box things to top it off if needed. |
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Charred Knight
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V Gundam also bombed in Japan causing Bandai to buy Sunrise, and create the Alternate Universes to save Gundam from the decreasing ratings that Gundam was going through. That's why it was one of the last Gundam series to get a DVD release. |
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CG-LOVER
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Well I don't know, maybe I'll check it out. I do want to get as much exposure to the UC timeline as I can, so I might check IGLOO out...and maybe I'll look up Evolve if I feel like it. Never checking out G-Saviour though. |
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penguintruth
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People still believe this? |
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Zetabag
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I peticularly find Gundam X's fate to be quite unfortunate as it seems that it failed because of what people called "Gundam Fatigue" (though this is just what I hear and as far as I know it has never been offically declared true). It bascially means that after 4 straight years of gundam material people needed a break from it and Gundam X had the bad luck of airing during this time. It really would be nice if it made it state side because its post apocalyptic setting is one that I've always wanted to see in Gundam. On a similar topic, I was quite suprised when I found out that Turn A Gundam was licensed. While it was praised by some gundam fans, I thought that it failed commercially and therefore it seemed odd to me that it was licensed for the US. Since Turn A Gundam was licensed maybe we will see some of the other series in the future. |
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naninanino
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Interesting read. I've seen most Gundam anime and even G-Saviour, which was quite hilarious. There is just one oddity that I haven't quite grasped: the Gundam SEED Astray opening episode. They even made an opening song for that and I really have no idea what's the gist of it. Oh, and I am not talking about Red/Blue Frame.
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rti9
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As always, great article. Extremely interesting and very informative.
It is really weird how two big mecha franchises, Macross and Gundam had such weird localization in America. I bet a lot of Japanese wouldn't believe if they were told what happened. I recall seeing a program exhibited in Japan on how One Piece was changed for the American audience and the reactions were pretty much: what the hell?
I totally agree with this, but I have seen lots of Gundam fans recommending almost all the UC titles for people who enjoyed Unicorn. Having someone point out the major points of what happened + a brief who is who or browsing something like a Wikipedia page should suffice. My opinion on Gundam is pretty much like BeanBandit's (except for the alternate universe - I only watched part of Wing and I didn't like it). I much prefer the OAVs that aren't directed by Tomino; like War in the Pocket, Stardust Memory, the 08th MS Team, and currently Unicorn. |
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kgw
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Actually, GX's ratings were quite good... until they (broadcasters) changed their spot and make Garoad and co. fight against, oh, Evangelion. As for Turn A, I'd always thought of it as "Gundam's Ghibli" -at least being the less "futuristic" of the whole series. |
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Frazmataz
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I thoroughly recommend 0083 or CCA. 0080 is good too, but there wasn't quite enough awesome mecha action in it to satisfy me  I can't comment on F91, though.
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Crisha
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Thanks a lot for the article, Mike. It was a fun, well-written, and very informing read - something even a non-fan to Gundam enjoyed.
Hearing all this fun, animated fan discussion makes me feel dissatisfied that I don't have a strong interest in Gundam and didn't get into it earlier. I want to be a part of the fanboy/girl gabfest. 
What's nice about Turn A (and I plan on buying it) is that it is AU and sounds like it stands on it's own other than a few tie-ins to the UC storyline, which will probably fly over my head. The UC storyline sounds like a massive undertaking to an anime fan who never really had a strong interest in robots/Gundam. The only series I ever completed was Wing's run on Cartoon Network, and I was in it for the characters at the time (I admit I had a strong fascination for Deathscythe and Sandrock, but a lot of that was probably due to the fact that Duo and Quatre were my favorite characters). I highly doubt I would ever be able to watch the series again - I was more invested in the fandom. Turn A sounds like a good, self-contained story with some things I may be interested in, so I'll support the series release. |
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amagee
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Such a brilliant article. It's been a while since I have been compelled to go digging through the internet for new, crazy Gundam material that I had never heard about.
I have unfortunately never been able to get my hands on X but according to a couple of my friends, it's very Wing-ish but with Newtypes. I know lots of people claim that this would've done very well after Gundam Wing. I'd have to see before I make any decisions. The only thing I feel has been left out of the chatter is G-Gundam. Oh G-Gundam. I have fond memories of watching this on Toonami and re-watching the entire series over a weekend with nothing but junk-food, my good gundam buddy, and his cat who would attack our feet if we sat still too long. I loved all the ridiculous, super-powered stuff from G-Gundam. It almost feels like a precursor to the beautiful stream of awesomeness which was Gurren Laggan. Also, this may just be me, but I really loved all the Gundam Evolve shorts. Some where brilliant, others not so much, but at the very least, they all incorporated something that charmed me (or alternatively, none of them lasted long enough to anger me). The nicer, alternative ending to Hathaway and such during Char's Counterattack was a particular favorite of mine. |
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belvadeer
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Because Toonami is dead 
Wow there certainly is a lot of Gundam history here. Can't say I'm a huge fan but I was always impressed with the animation and designs for the various Gundams I did manage to see. Everyone is lauding Turn A Gundam so much, I certainly hope it'll be good. |
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Charred Knight
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Why do people keep on thinking that the main character of Gundam 0080 was Bernie? The main character is Alfred, the entire point of Gundam 0080 was supposed to show the civilian side of war. Why do you think the entire ending is mostly civilians? That's why Gundam 0080 is so brilliant, while Unicorn is perfectly fine embracing the stagnation that Gundam (dear god a certain character's alias is Audrey how lazy can you be) is in Gundam 0080 was written in a time where Gundam was leading the charge of anime with fresh storylines. Last edited by Charred Knight on Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:26 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Frazmataz
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Erm, did I insinuate that Bernie was the main character? Or that showing the civilian side wasn't the point?  I fully understand what 0080 was trying to do (it's immediately obvious from watching it), and it acheives its aims admirably. I just didn't find it as... engrossing as some other UC entries. Please don't jump to conclusions on my opinions based on such a general comment as 'not quite enough awesome mecha action'.
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