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NEWS: 4Kids Reports US$9.8 Million Net Loss in 3Q 2010

Just skimming through the comments, I never realized that 4Kids was something the newer fans dislike so vehemently. I guess it's what the older fans felt towards Carl Macek/ Harmony Gold and all of that business.
I also find it funny decrying the editing of shows that weren't ever really great in the first place. Being mad about Macek mangling Robotech is one thing. But something relatively new, like Pokemon, or Yugioh, that was always more about selling a product than telling a story? Doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. But, then again, being 27 and having lost interest in most anime for several years, I'm just an old fogey.
I just find it interesting, the same reactions to two similar, yet somewhat dissimilar, situations.

Nineofclubs wrote:

I hope somebody buys them up and improves them, I'd hate to see all those people lose jobs. Especially now where it seems to be hard to find other ones.

Me too. I would love Funimation or somebody redub Sonic X and restore all of its missing footage and diolouge.

So maybe it would be a good thing if 4Kids was sold off.

Reinhard Von Lohengram wrote:

Just skimming through the comments, I never realized that 4Kids was something the newer fans dislike so vehemently. I guess it's what the older fans felt towards Carl Macek/ Harmony Gold and all of that business. I also find it funny decrying the editing of shows that weren't ever really great in the first place. Being mad about Macek mangling Robotech is one thing. But something relatively new, like Pokemon, or Yugioh, that was always more about selling a product than telling a story? Doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. But, then again, being 27 and having lost interest in most anime for several years, I'm just an old fogey. I just find it interesting, the same reactions to two similar, yet somewhat dissimilar, situations.

You mean Harmony Gold/Streamline.

Also, I'm 27, and even I know that most of 4kids library is fraught with mediocrity but that doesn't excuse poor translating and bad editing or the fact that they give NYAV Post pathetic and supbar material to work with. 4Kids brought all of this hate themselves and forever ruined SEGA's chances with success with the Sonic X franchise.

They never should have gave up Pokemon like that.

Actually it is an issue. For a One Piece fan like me, even other anime fans look at me weird when I say I'm a fan of One Piece. Why? Because the only thing they know about it is that debacle that One Piece threw out there. A lot of people STILL just have that in there heads when they hear "One Piece".

Scormio wrote:

Actually it is an issue. For a One Piece fan like me, even other anime fans look at me weird when I say I'm a fan of One Piece. Why? Because the only thing they know about it is that debacle that One Piece threw out there. A lot of people STILL just have that in there heads when they hear "One Piece".

First of all, they probably either have no idea who Funimation is or they never watched Cartoon Network from late October 2007 - April 2008 Saturdays at... I think 10pm or they can't tell the difference between past tense and present tense!

I have to agree with Shenl742 though that treating 4Kids like garbage is like beating a dying horse to the ground. I get what 4Kids did in the past as far as handling anime wasn't mostly ideal for anime fans, but the most frequent "go-to" argument regarding why they suck is from 5 years ago and have been resolved entirely by a different company for the past 3 years. Enough already! And I mean, come on, read their logo! They never targetted any of us in the first place unless some of us happen to be 12 years or younger. If they license a show we would not want them to license, then yeah, it sucks but too bad. I don't think we have the right to ultimately decide what company will license what anime we want licensed. I'm fine with anime fans being upset with what 4Kids license, but to whine and rant non-stop about it and make 20+ Youtube videos over how horrific their edits are like a kid making a tantrum for not getting his/her ice cream is just a waste of time to me.

Regarding the article, I'm a bit suprised they're still losing money. I wouldn't expect them to make a lot lately, but it really sucks they had to shut down two divisions involved in the Chaotic trading card game. I don't play it since I don't know anyone else who would play it, but I honestly figured the Chaotic franchise would've proved really helpful for them. I'm not even sure if Tai-Chi Chasers would help a lot despite NO anime fan seeing that show coming a mile away. I don't even know how many episodes that show is which might decide how long that show could make money for them.

The whole One Piece dabacle:

1-Happened 5 years ago

2-Ended up failing and was put to a halt relatively quickly

and 3-An unedited , fully dubbed version is now readily available.

True enough. I think that if 4 Kids wants the block to do well, they need some third party stuff...unfortunently the only two remaning companies that still consistently put out dubs(Funi and Viz), haven't offered much in terms on kid-friendly series as of late(if I hear Kekkaishi mentioned, I will reach through the screen and end your existance).

Reinhard Von Lohengram wrote:

Just skimming through the comments, I never realized that 4Kids was something the newer fans dislike so vehemently. I guess it's what the older fans felt towards Carl Macek/ Harmony Gold and all of that business. I also find it funny decrying the editing of shows that weren't ever really great in the first place. Being mad about Macek mangling Robotech is one thing. But something relatively new, like Pokemon, or Yugioh, that was always more about selling a product than telling a story? Doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. But, then again, being 27 and having lost interest in most anime for several years, I'm just an old fogey. I just find it interesting, the same reactions to two similar, yet somewhat dissimilar, situations.

You mean Harmony Gold/Streamline.

Also, I'm 27, and even I know that most of 4kids library is fraught with mediocrity but that doesn't excuse poor translating and bad editing or the fact that they give NYAV Post pathetic and supbar material to work with. 4Kids brought all of this hate themselves and forever ruined SEGA's chances with success with the Sonic X franchise.

Here's something they can do. Stop doing the shit they do to anime. I assure you, suddenly they will do much better, and at the same time, gain a fair bit more respect.