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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:56 pm Reply with quote
LordByronius wrote:
Imperial_Commander wrote:
Hey LordByronus, who's real and true identity I'm sure is quite mysterious and hard to figure out :p

When you answered that one guy who was asking about the screenplay or graphic novel, you said that the best thing to do is to "make some noise" and write short stories, play, prose, for radio, for a sketch comedy troupe and for a crappy college film project.

Since you've got experience in all of that (or at least I'm presuming you do - and I know for a FACT at least you've got the play and sketch comedy thing down for pat) how do you go about doing that then?

I am very legitimately curious, My Lord Smile


...also, I'm kinda surprised that the post count for this discussion is pretty low. The other recent ones got to 4+ pages pretty quick, we're still stuck at just one Sad


uh... being sociable? i mean having a solid group of friends with similar interests is a good way of making all of these things happen eventually. the playwriting and the comedy is simply my own experience that sprouted out of the friends that *i* have. maybe your friends would be more interested in starting a webcomic or a podcast or a short film or something. who knows. my point was to just let things happen as organically and naturally as possible and to never be afraid to take risks without the allure of financial gain.
Well you know there is another way to get that "big break" with your first attempt at writing a story. Just have a damn good story to write and write it in a damn good way. It worked for J.K. Rowling. A single mum living on benefits in a council estate in Edinburgh, Scotland at the time. "Council estate" is the quant British phrase for a ghetto. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:01 pm Reply with quote
DavidShallcross wrote:
jsevakis wrote:
Also, when you want legal advice, you talk to a lawyer, not your local government. General rule of thumb. (Especially since copyrights are federal laws.)

Still, it certainly sounds like the questioner is neither a citizen nor resident (nor visitor) of the US, thus not subject to US law, therefore should ask these questions to the relevant people in his/her own country, and not to ANN, who is hard-pressed to remember that any countries other than the US and Japan exist.


That's because anime is going to be licensed in Japan and possibly the United States and possibly other countries. It matters where the license is held, so that law will likely prevail if the copyright infringement were challenged. The "government" (i.e. whoever happened to answer the phone and not understand the question, not care, or not know jack shit about the laws) of Country XYZ can say "oh that's ok" all they want, but that isn't going to stop a lawsuit from happening.
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Cephus



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:24 pm Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
Well you know there is another way to get that "big break" with your first attempt at writing a story. Just have a damn good story to write and write it in a damn good way. It worked for J.K. Rowling. A single mum living on benefits in a council estate in Edinburgh, Scotland at the time. "Council estate" is the quant British phrase for a ghetto. Wink


You have to remember, Harry Potter wasn't an instant success either, it was turned down by 8 publishers before Rowling got an offer. Sure, you can get a big break, but those are exceedingly rare. Most aspiring authors never sell a thing.
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If your Country is a member of the Berne Convention and/or the Universal Copyright Convention I'm pretty sure(but not positive) they would consider the unauthorized broadcasting of Japanese animation as illegal.

Now that doesn't mean they would actually do anything about it without pressure from the Japanese copyright holder, most likely byway of the Japanese government though.
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:43 pm Reply with quote
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You have to remember, Harry Potter wasn't an instant success either, it was turned down by 8 publishers before Rowling got an offer. Sure, you can get a big break, but those are exceedingly rare. Most aspiring authors never sell a thing.
Is that the fault of the authors, or the pubishers? Wink
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I feel bad for the whipped guy who won't watch One Piece because of his wife.
Sucks to be him.

As for One Piece, definitely thankful for it! I'm also thankful that after 10 years, it's still (if not even more) popular. [In Japan I mean. Here in the states, it's gotten more popular but not as much as other certain titles.]
Thankful that they decided to run Fairy Tail's anime for a second year. Thankful that they're making a Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood movie. That Trigun is on youtube subbed by FUNi, and that I can buy the DVD for it.
Oh, and definitely thankful for being able to get my hands on a copy of (even if it is used) the Tales of Vesperia Xbox 360 game.

And of course, thankful for my friends who share my passion of anime, manga, and video games. If not for them, I would be one lonely anime fan-girl.

Hope that guy who wrote the book gets published. (If Twilight can, why can't you? Laughing )
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But, hey, I get it - people are worried, still, about the Christopher Handley thing ...

The intricacies of the Handley case are strenuous and nuanced and difficult to nail down in an intelligent manner without completely derailing this column into territory it doesn't belong in. But everybody's still super worried about it. Which baffles me.

The worry is completely justified. The case and others like it is also very simple to understand actually. There's nothing nuanced about it at all. If there was a lot of wiggle room or a very gray area then there wouldn't be as much worry. But there isn't. It's simply a bad law (actually two: that portion of the Protect Act and obscenity falling under unprotected speech) that shouldn't exist in the first place.

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Let's just think on this for a minute. Out of the hundreds of thousands of individuals, every single day, who frequent their favorite image board of choice to procure the latest n' greatest of hand-drawn spank material, who among them has ever been "brought to justice" for viewing or owning these so-called "illegal" materials? Recently? Two guys. One in Australia - the "crass Simpsons porn" you're referencing - and of course Mr. Handley here in the US.

And most recently Kutzner in the US. Even aside from those guys under Protect Act, there are people who have gone to jail before in the same situation, their life ruined with a criminal record for drawn obscenity: Jesus Castillo and Mike Diana (and likewise others when it comes to real porn).

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Statistically, that's nothing.

Basically, I'm sick of people feeling persecuted over nothing. You are not Christopher Handley. You are not Simpsons Porn Guy. You are not in jail, you are not likely to *go* to jail,


That's a damn terrible, myopic perspective. The feeling of unjust persecution regardless if one shares the same interest, is justified. The statistics doesn't matter one bit. If anything, the low incidences allow bad laws like these to go unnoticed and less successfully challenged. The fact of the matter is not only that anyone can go to jail, he/she will should anyone report it. Even if it's not specifically under 1466A, then it would be under general obscenity. It is not an exaggeration to say that there is a surefire chance of conviction in these cases if someone, somewhere is offended according to mainstream sensibilities. You can read more in general about it here. The problematic nature of "it's legal until someone says otherwise" and "I know it when I see it" is *technically* the only thing that allows these sites with rule 34 and whatever perceived disturbing, offensive work to live on, along with commercial hentai / erotica to continue to be sold, all the while (unethically) turning all participants into potential criminals
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:38 am Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
Cephus wrote:

You have to remember, Harry Potter wasn't an instant success either, it was turned down by 8 publishers before Rowling got an offer. Sure, you can get a big break, but those are exceedingly rare. Most aspiring authors never sell a thing.
Is that the fault of the authors, or the pubishers? Wink


That IS the question, now isn't it. Let me be honest: I'm taking my first steps into being an editor right now, and if someone pushed a copy of "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" (Sorcerer's Stone in the US) my way, I'd reject it too! Heck, I'd reject it 8 times over! The book is just not that good. But it captured peoples' imagination enough to get a sequel, which led to a third book, which was actually kind of good. And now I love the Harry Potter series, but I still can't read books 1 and 2 without cringing. Smile

Naa, with books, music, movies, and any other form of media right now, it mostly just boils down to either A) friends in high places, or B) dumb luck. Plenty of amazing stuff never sees the light of day, and plenty of absolute CRAP is published simply because so-and-so knew the right people.
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Imperial_Commander



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:25 pm Reply with quote
LordByronius wrote:
Imperial_Commander wrote:
Hey LordByronus, who's real and true identity I'm sure is quite mysterious and hard to figure out :p

When you answered that one guy who was asking about the screenplay or graphic novel, you said that the best thing to do is to "make some noise" and write short stories, play, prose, for radio, for a sketch comedy troupe and for a crappy college film project.

Since you've got experience in all of that (or at least I'm presuming you do - and I know for a FACT at least you've got the play and sketch comedy thing down for pat) how do you go about doing that then?

I am very legitimately curious, My Lord Smile


...also, I'm kinda surprised that the post count for this discussion is pretty low. The other recent ones got to 4+ pages pretty quick, we're still stuck at just one Sad


uh... being sociable? i mean having a solid group of friends with similar interests is a good way of making all of these things happen eventually. the playwriting and the comedy is simply my own experience that sprouted out of the friends that *i* have. maybe your friends would be more interested in starting a webcomic or a podcast or a short film or something. who knows. my point was to just let things happen as organically and naturally as possible and to never be afraid to take risks without the allure of financial gain.


Huh, well I guess I have to actually go out and get friends then :p

BTW how hard/easy it is just to find a group of like-minded people and get a troupe going?
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