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Beatdigga
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It doesn't surprise me that the "TRADITION FIRST" mentality of the Japanese establishment strikes again.
Realistically, I expect this to pass upon hearing the JDP is conceding to the bill. This WILL ruin the industry. Completely. |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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chrisc1978
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I meant rape but rap is terrible to. |
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Nemo_N
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Governor Ishihara thinks gays on TV are too much; what makes you think he, and people like him, will be more reasonable about pantyshots and highschool comedies? Again, you are thinking that your definition of "manga and animation that glorifies or exaggerates illegal sexual acts" is the same as theirs. It is not. And passing laws hoping the people in charge agree with you about what is appropriate and what isn't is naive. |
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rinmackie
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Uh, did I miss something here? I thought everyone was up in arms about this bill because it would ban almost everything that wasn't already restricted, like hentai. Now it's like, no, it's only hentai and other hard core stuff, everything else is safe. As long as we have our fanservice, everything is ok, and no one cares about social commentary. And then it diverged into a conversation about Strike Witches.
So, WTF?! 
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Hentai_JP
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Ok. chrisc1978, eragon2890 can you two idiots get some room to argue in, lets say, through private message service? I mean one is a christian, BAN ALL EVIL (which is exactly what is NOT going to be banned by this bill) and the other is deaf (WHATEVER YOU SAY CAN"T MEAN THIS), and both of your don't even bother to do some independent search on what this bill actually means. Hell you ignore what other people point out in this very thread.
Man, why are there so many morons in this world? |
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chrisc1978
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Only two I can think off is what I think should be banned. "Kodomo No Jikan" and "Kiss x Sis" |
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rinmackie
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Kodomo no Jikan isn't available in the US, and in Japan, I believe it's already restricted to adults only. So this bill won't affect it. Probably the same for Kiss x Sis, I think. (Though I think it is streamed here.)
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The only thing that supporters know is this stuff is out there and they'll be fine with INDISCRIMINATELY enforcing regulations on the artform and labeling ANY person who expresses interest in them as a pervert and criminal. The revised law may have become less vague but that doesn't mean that the victims, us fans, will be affected in any sort of precision on what level of explicitness we find acceptable or not. |
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eragon2890
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How do you mean I didn't do any research? I posted the article from Dan Kanemitsu to back up my statement and got my info from the mainichi daily news
Look, it's very simple. I have experience making, interpretating, and dealing with laws. I know what this law will do. If you don't believe me, I qouted Dan Kanemitsu, who also literally stated that the law will NOT affect panty shots and highschool comedy's etc, and also not anything already marked 18+, so loli rape and such is not affected. This is because this is not a new law; it is a revision of a current law. The hardcore stuff is already regulated by the current law. Panty shots etc. simply don't fall under the very strict definition ("glorified or extremely exaggerated depiction of a illegal sexual act.") that is being added, so it's bull**** to assume that will fall under this, again as also stated by Dan Kanemitsu. And given the above, if you think this bill "will ruin the industry. completely" you really haven't tought enough about it: Moe is not affected. Hardcore rape is not affected. Any shows without fanservice (like really dark violent shows) are not affected. Etc. etc. etc. So how in god's name could this completely ruin the industry? all it means is... well not much actually. I seriously can't think of one series which is not already regulated or self-regulated but would be under the new definition except maybe boys love (but probably not either, because it would have to be sexual to the point of being sexually stimulating, and thus already be regulated, because right now the law allows regulation of any "Sexually stimulating" materials.) And in the end, if there a few "half porn" series that *might* be affected, well most of them will already be self-regulated right now, and otherwise, from now on just put a 18+ mark on those few series that fall under the new definition and only sell them to adults. Problem solved. Stating that this will ruin the industry is just... bullshit. And btw, nobody from inside the industry is saying that they will be "ruined" or anything like that, either... |
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eragon2890
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Hentai and fanservice were never targets of this bill in the first place, since they are already regulated. read this http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/ (last three points of the sum-up)
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DCR
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Sibling sex scens too? Even when it's not rape or underage stuff? The first two, I can understand. I don't agree, but I understand, since it's illegal and amoral (although then you should also ban murder scenes because it's at least as amoral and illegal). But incest? Why not homosexuality, while you're at it, since the arguments against whould be the same?
On the top of my head, I can think of Narutaru (rape, incest and underage), Bokura no (rape and underage), Utena (incest), Angel Sanctuary (incest), Berserk (rape), Basara (rape) that could be banned. |
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hikaru004
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Adjusting the age rating of those titles would stop any "banning". Is Utena even popular in Japan still? |
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TheAncientOne
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[quote="chrisc1978"]
If you are talking about Strike Witches, the main character, Miyafuji Yoshika, is 14 years old in the first series. The youngest is Francesca Lucchini, who was 12 years old at the start of the series. |
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TheAncientOne
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I don't know of any place in the United States that legally streams Kiss x Sis. If you are talking about illegal streams, then Kodomo no Jikan is available as well. |
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