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Wow, you can notice the difference in quality in the 1992 printing compared to the 2009 printing of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Its sad that Araki had to take out the mosques getting damaged in exchange for tv towers & water tanks because I can definitely imagine Dio destroying them without a care lol

I should go to a local Book Off and try to find the old 1992 printing of volume 27. This should be fun.

Gyt Kaliba wrote:

Mr. Nescio wrote:

Gyt Kaliba wrote:

The editting done to I"s has always been a little odd to me too, I mean...the series is definitely one that's not aimed at kids. Even without all the nude moments, the story in-of-itself just isn't the kind of thing that's going to interest too many really young people.

I''s ran in Shounen Jump like some other Katsura's series and other shounen romance manga, which contain more or less fanservice. It certainly is a genre that interests under 18 year olds.

In Japan, yes, but I don't see too many under 18 year olds interested in the romance genre in the US. I should have been clearer about what I meant there, my bad.

They'd be interested in romance, yes, but not too many would be interested in reading a manga about it I'd guess, sadly.

I actually wonder what the demographic of it would be. Its still a very idealistic and innocent manga, even if it does have the nudity and such in it. I recall being around 15 when I read it, and it seemed about the right age for it. Rereading 10 years later, it was still a good manga, especially for its genre, but, it was as mature as something I would read now.

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Rather than rewrite entire storylines, he chose to cover the characters' breasts with little stars like on the cover of an old porn video—thus ironically actually drawing attention to the fact that it had been censored. Could this have been the rebellious editor's intention all along? (P.S. I used to be the editor's roommate.)

I think the editors intent was to imitate a scene later in the manga where stars were also used as censhorship (from the scanslations, since its easier for me to dig up that then scans of the original jp release).

ptolemy18 wrote:

thenix wrote:

It's a doujin that got licensed in America. In japan it was was fan made and not licensed. he wasn't obliged to adhear to any of nintendo's rules. Also the artist is a doujin hentai artist so that's what's up with the fanservice.

Nope, it wasn't a dojinshi, it was an official Pokemon comic. It ran in Shogakukan's CoroCoro Comic and was collected in 4 tankobon.

The part about him doing hentai on the side is probably right, tho'.

Oh, he definitely has. Quite a bit, too!

Man, I gotta say, snake hand is just too damn funny. See, the original scene was already funny, but blatant editing somehow only made it funnier. Not only that, but it's edited pretty damn poorly. I mean, they tried, but the art style is just so obviously different.
Also, only Captain Hammer is allowed to explain the joke here.

Yugioh Abridged loves to point out how the guards seem to use invisible guns (Ishizu pays good money for the guards with visible guns)

I know it's chump change, but I'm still miffed about the Greed cross change in FMA.

A lot of people were crucified, not just Jesus. And so what if they were making him into a Christ figure? It's not trying to defame Jesus at all.

I know Arakawa approved of the change, but it still irritates me to know that there are so many over sensitive fundamentalist imbeciles in the US and we have to change things for people who wouldn't be reading these things to begin with. Scripture is pretty violent, too, but I guess since it doesn't have pictures, it's okay, right?

Manga artists should start demanding not to be censored for any reason or they'll refuse to let it be brought over, but I realize that getting published internationally is probably a real boon for some of these folks, so they're willing to compromise.

However, my attitude is, if you don't like it, don't read it. Forcing it to be changed is a slap to the face to creative freedom.

penguintruth wrote:

Manga artists should start demanding not to be censored for any reason or they'll refuse to let it be brought over, but I realize that getting published internationally is probably a real boon for some of these folks, so they're willing to compromise.

To my knowledge, manga artists do have a final say in whether or not a censorship gets done. Though I am sure this isn't always the case, in the case of most of Viz's releases (like Tenjou Tenge and I''s), it was stated that the edits were shown to the original manga artists and they signed off on them. Though it may not have been the authors original intention, they at least approved of them or did not thing the changes were significant enough to effect the work as a whole. Its not like these changes were made against the author's wishes.

Did Oh! Great really agree to CMX's edits? Bizarre.

I have to side with Viz on O-Parts Hunter/666 Satan though. Because, well, yeah.

I really wish that Viz would stop censoring Naruto (cropping middle fingers being flipped, adding towels/steam to hide ~*scary nekkid bodies*~ erasing a cigarette that was a vital plot point for a particular character, and my biggest pet peeve: blacking out the Boy on Boy AND Girl on Girl techniques).

Akukame wrote:

penguintruth wrote:

Manga artists should start demanding not to be censored for any reason or they'll refuse to let it be brought over, but I realize that getting published internationally is probably a real boon for some of these folks, so they're willing to compromise.

To my knowledge, manga artists do have a final say in whether or not a censorship gets done. Though I am sure this isn't always the case, in the case of most of Viz's releases (like Tenjou Tenge and I''s), it was stated that the edits were shown to the original manga artists and they signed off on them. Though it may not have been the authors original intention, they at least approved of them or did not thing the changes were significant enough to effect the work as a whole. Its not like these changes were made against the author's wishes.

Some of them probably need the extra income. I can''t think that they are happy about it, though.

It funny how there's this attitude in the U.S. to not negotiate with radicalized religious groups, but are always capitulating to radicalized christians.

While the subject may not be as ridiculous/sensational, the only thing I wish this article would have otherwise covered is the changes made due to pop culture and product references. Nana has some name change made to the band, iirc, and I've read that Black Lagoon had a lot of these references taken out, as well. Bastard!! is another one, with the various references to '80s heavy metal bands.

Akukame wrote:

To my knowledge, manga artists do have a final say in whether or not a censorship gets done. Though I am sure this isn't always the case, in the case of most of Viz's releases (like Tenjou Tenge and I''s), it was stated that the edits were shown to the original manga artists and they signed off on them.

Just to note, CMX censored Tenjho Tenge, while Viz has released it uncensored (and have made it a point to advertise it as such). This was even mentioned in Jason's article.

Jason wrote:

In Viz's Dragon Ball Z, it's OK for Cyborg #17 to blow up whole cities, but when he shoots an old man with a handgun, that scene had to be changed.

Ugh, this is just one example of how utterly stupid censorship is. I swear, some people should not be working in adapting Anime and Manga if they are going to make changes like this.

Obviously when 17 blew up those cities it was Sunday so there wasn't anyone in those buildings Laughing

tuxedocat wrote:

It funny how there's this attitude in the U.S. to not negotiate with radicalized religious groups, but are always capitulating to radicalized christians.

Normally foreign radical religious group members don't vote in US elections.

Some of these edits are just plain silly. It is all an attempt to avoid being blamed someone else's behavior. "The manga / anime / devil made me do it!"

Mark Gosdin

lostrune wrote:

Obviously when 17 blew up those cities it was Sunday so there wasn't anyone in those buildings Laughing

Joking about the dub, I think you actually stumbled on something true.

With explosions, there's a sort of psychological deniability. You don't see people actually dying, you don't see body parts flying around and such (at least in most DB explosions). It's sort of a "clean" death, without a lot of blood.

In some ways, being vaporized by a "ki" blast in DB is "clean", because the entire body is being wiped away, so no remains, no charred corpse, the victim just kind of disappears.

With, say, a decapitation, that's blatant, you see a head flying off. Even being shot with a gun is more "personal", more up close and undeniable.

This is what I think the people doing the censoring are thinking.

Kazemon15 wrote:

That's what I did, actually... Anime hyper

I hate Viz with passion and I refuse to give them another cent of my money. So I just import the Japanese manga and read the scanlations.

And that's totally cool, good on you; you are completely exempted. If only every other person who insisted on sticking to scanlations for purity reasons would put their money where their mouth is, instead of just trying to find excuse never paying for anything.

Sometimes I buy manga for stuff that doesn't even have scanlation, if I like the artist...

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