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INTEREST: Graffiti, Misuse of Piano Cited at K-On Model School

cited the times that the broadcasting equipment and piano in the auditorium were used without permission.

So this place is just open for the public to freely use? Is there no sort of staff or regulation? Heh, then again, it's not like neighborhood parks are any resistant to vandalism.

It does seem like one of those "only in Japan" stories. Open what is essentially an entire empty school building to the public, and then complain when people invariably start screwing around with the stuff inside? Yup, makes sense to me.

It does seem like one of those "only in Japan" stories. Open what is essentially an entire empty school building to the public, and then complain when people invariably start screwing around with the stuff inside? Yup, makes sense to me.

Yeah, people vandalizing public property and stealing is totally a "only in Japan" thing...

That is because you are approaching the matter with a western mindset. Because of Japan's culture and society they are able to do things, like keep buildings open to the public without the degree of supervision and the security guards that western nations would require, especially the United States.

You can see this in the freedom small children have to travel alone to school or the market, sometimes at a significant distance or by train.

No, TarsTarkas really does have a point. You are thinking about this from a completely Western standpoint. Westerners would hear this announcement by the town and consider it a challenge. Japanese people would see it as a chastisement. Really, were it not an Otaku Mecca, I think this announcement would ACTUALLY WORK. However, since it IS an Otaku Mecca, I give it 1 more month before some !@#!@er ruins it for everyone.

PS: Logical fallacies have little meaning in a culture that has never heard of Aristotle.

And you know all of this...how? Do you have some overarching level of experience that allows you to make factual blanket statements about heterogeneous groups of people?

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PS: Logical fallacies have little meaning in a culture that has never heard of Aristotle.

...wait, what? I was referring to how TarsTarkas presented his point, which has nothing at all to do with Japan. And since when are basic logical principles not applicable within certain countries?

Does a 4-year degree in Cultural Anthropology (plus 2 years of continuing academic study) and four years of focused study within Japan count? It's not even a matter of fact; cross-cultural communication is much more about perception--something that not too many people seem to be aware of. To someone who grew up in "stick-it-to-the-man" America, it is likely that a statement by the town would be perceived as a challenge in their minds. To someone who grew up in "the-nail-that-sticks-up-must-be-hammered-in" Japan, a statement like that would be perceived as a chastisement to the community for not doing its job.

Yeah, I typed that and then quickly went out the door, and realized as I was traveling that you had been referring to something different. Sorry bout that. Anyway, WITHIN Japan, pointing out logical fallacies has very little meaning. For thousands of years, wisdom has been defined by Confucian and Zen principles, where contradictions are just a way of expressing an inexpressible truth. When I try to apply Aristotelian logic in arguments with Japanese people, it invariably gets me nowhere.