Forum - View topicIndy anime - pros and cons.
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wanderlustking
 Posts: 449 Location: Bozeman, Montana |
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I like the world of indy development. I am always amazed by how much work an indy team can get done; in less time, and on a smaller budget than its big studio competitors. This allows for innovation and creative freedom we usually don't see from the big guys.
So what are your guy's opinions on indy anime, and the relationship it has with its bigger counterpart? If your a fan, what are some of your favorite indy anime, and why? If your not so fond of the indy scene, what do you think are it's biggest drawbacks, and how do you think the industry could go about solving those constraints? For me, the best low budget anime are Tweeny Witches and Eve no Jikan. Both were produced on small budgets (especially Eve no Jikan), but look much better than a lot of the high end animation coming from Bones and Gainax (to me at least, some might feel differently; and that's okay). Both told heavily atmospheric stories (Tweeny Witches' high fantasy setting; Eve no Jikan's soft core philosophical sci-fi world, set twenty minutes into Japans future), and had great production values. When you talk about indy development and it's restrictions, you don't get very far before someone mentions distribution. Let's face it, a low budget production will have trouble reaching the masses. The internet has helped reduce this to some degree, but can only do so much with limited marketing (distributions younger, bitchier brother). Traditional means of marketing are expensive; and to most, viral marketing reeks of foul play If the anime industry wants to move forward, and make the most of this blossoming new means of creation, I think a few things will have to happen. First, producers and consumers alike need to stop viewing this as a sort of neo-class struggle. Both the indy and the big budget producers have their own strengths, and weaknesses. Right now, the two sides are locked in conflict, with the consumption (i.e. profit) falling into one of two camps; but a little give and take could do amazing things for both the quality, and sales margins of the productions on both sides of the line. Second, anime fans need to start taking indy animation more seriously. This will be harder for us living outside of Japan, since low level productions have a hard time getting beyond the shores of their origin; but fansubs have long served as the bridge between Japan and the rest of the world; and you'd have to be crazy to think companies like Funimation don't look at seed numbers on the pirate bay before they decide which series to license abroad. I could go on to explain exactly how these two factions could unite, to the benefit of all; but I've already said a lot. For now, I'm interested in what other people think about the subject. TL;DNR What are your thoughts on indy anime? Likes? Dislikes? Affects on the industry? See above for my view on the subject. |
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poilk92
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I wasn't really aware of an *indie anime scene. That being said I throughly enjoyed Eve no Jikan and much of what I enjoyed about it might have only come to pass because of its humble origins. It definitely wasn't designed to market (no fan service or action). And I doubt anyone would run up a big budget for such a risky production because lets face it you can make more money off a piece of garbage with boobs and explosions than a subtle introspective piece like Eve no Jikan. But because of this it felt much more genuine and was fantastic.
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ArsenicSteel
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The Eve no Jikan was beautifully crafted and the few key-frames that they used looked wonderful. The art style of Eve no Jikan benefited from being sci-fi, realistic and futuristic. Many of Gainax and Bones' shows purposefully have unrealistic and over the top art style based on manga. Usually the manga art style is just as important as the manga story to fans when doing an anime adaptation.
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Greg Aubry
 Posts: 226 Location: Detroit, MI |
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poilk92: Time of Eve (Eve no Jikan) definitely does indeed have fan service. You're forgetting the young-middle-aged couple who come in. The woman, Rina, is extremely well-endowed and wears a very revealing dress. To Masaki's embarrassed amusement, Rikuo can't help but stare at her. Yoshiura makes a point of squashing her breasts against her partner Koji's arm, and putting her in all sorts of provocative poses.
That having been said, it's still a great show with solid characterization and top-notch digital artistry. What surprises me about indie productions like this is how small their production staff is. That Time of Eve was an "Original Net Animation" that aired in ten-minute chunks over the course of a year and change is amazing to me. I still wish Directions had put subtitles on that Blu-ray release. I'd've splurged on the import for sure. |
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poilk92
Posts: 433 Location: Long Beach California |
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I know what you are talking about. I still do not call that fan service because her sexuality was very important to get across to the viewer. I don't believe that was included to titillate the viewer (which is what fan-service is for). It was meant to show a different side to the robots that none of the others were exhibiting and give you some insight into how easy it would be for someone to be attracted to a machine despite the taboo. I am sure the main character had it in his mind that being attracted to machines was wrong and I imagine the whole time he was staring at her the thought that she was probably a machine and not a real human never crossed his mind. That was the point, not to arouse the viewer in my opinion
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