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Penguin_Factory wrote:

As much as many seem to view the cancellation of all of these proposed live action anime adaptations as a dodged bullet, I'm pretty disappointed that none of them ever made it off the ground, especially Evangelion.

They're still making that one, but they changed the name to Pacific Rim If that movie does well then I would say Hollywood has more success when they remake anime/Japanese cinema but change the names to titles like Inception, Black Swan, and Hunger Games.

Penguin_Factory wrote:

As much as many seem to view the cancellation of all of these proposed live action anime adaptations as a dodged bullet, I'm pretty disappointed that none of them ever made it off the ground, especially Evangelion.

They're still making that one, but they changed the name to Pacific Rim If that movie does well then I would say Hollywood has more success when they remake anime/Japanese cinema but change the names to titles like Inception, Black Swan, and Hunger Games.

To claim that that Pacific Rim ripped off Evangelion simply based on a fact that there are giant robots that fight monsters is really "interesting".

They're still making that one, but they changed the name to Pacific Rim :lol: If that movie does well then I would say Hollywood has more success when they remake anime/Japanese cinema but change the names to titles like Inception, Black Swan, and Hunger Games. :wink:

lostrune wrote:

They're still making that one, but they changed the name to Pacific Rim If that movie does well then I would say Hollywood has more success when they remake anime/Japanese cinema but change the names to titles like Inception, Black Swan, and Hunger Games.

Even if Chris Nolan admitted to being inspired by Satoshi Kon's adaptation of Paprika during the production of Inception, also keep in mind that he had first pitched Inception to Warner Bros. in 2001, a good five years before the Satoshi Kon film. Darren Aronofsky had always been interested in ballet, and he developed Black Swan from an unproduced screenplay about understudies, taking influence from Roman Polanski and Fyodor Dostoyevsky along the way; it is doubtful if he's even heard of Princess Tutu, much less watched it. Finally, Suzanne Collins hadn't even heard of Battle Royale until just after she had submitted The Hunger Games for publication.

Darren Aronofsky had always been interested in ballet, and he developed Black Swan from an unproduced screenplay about understudies, taking influence from Roman Polanski and Fyodor Dostoyevsky along the way; it is doubtful if he's even heard of Princess Tutu, much less watched it.

Panzer Vor wrote:

Darren Aronofsky had always been interested in ballet, and he developed Black Swan from an unproduced screenplay about understudies, taking influence from Roman Polanski and Fyodor Dostoyevsky along the way; it is doubtful if he's even heard of Princess Tutu, much less watched it.

I thought Black Swan was claimed to have ripped off Perfect Blue, not Princess Tutu.

Panzer Vor wrote:

lostrune wrote: They're still making that one, but they changed the name to Pacific Rim If that movie does well then I would say Hollywood has more success when they remake anime/Japanese cinema but change the names to titles like Inception, Black Swan, and Hunger Games. Even if Chris Nolan admitted to being inspired by Satoshi Kon's adaptation of Paprika during the production of Inception, also keep in mind that he had first pitched Inception to Warner Bros. in 2001, a good five years before the Satoshi Kon film. Darren Aronofsky had always been interested in ballet, and he developed Black Swan from an unproduced screenplay about understudies, taking influence from Roman Polanski and Fyodor Dostoyevsky along the way; it is doubtful if he's even heard of Princess Tutu, much less watched it. Finally, Suzanne Collins hadn't even heard of Battle Royale until just after she had submitted The Hunger Games for publication.

No, everything that shares story elements with an anime is a ripoff. Hollywood is a corrupt place that wants to steal all the anime ideas and give no credit, instead claiming the glory for themselves. We must rise up against our west coast oppressors and shout to the heavens "EASTERN SUPERIORITY!!"

Darren Aronofsky had always been interested in ballet, and he developed Black Swan from an unproduced screenplay about understudies, taking influence from Roman Polanski and Fyodor Dostoyevsky along the way; it is doubtful if he's even heard of Princess Tutu, much less watched it.

Think of it this way; Black Swan is a remake of Perfect Blue in the same way that Reservoir Dogs was a remake of City on Fire. Both films have their own unique, distinct identity, but they're so indebted to that which inspired it that you can't ignore the connections once you see them.

...and yeah, for what it's worth, PACIFIC RIM strikes me much more as closer in tone to Mazinger or Gaiking, the retro 70s "Super Robot" shows with a modern aesthetic.

When I watched Black Swan I saw far more in common with All About Eve then I did with Perfect Blue. I guess that means based on some peoples standereds that means Sadayuki Murai ripped off Joseph Mankiewicz and is a hack. While we are at it Battle Royale has a lot in common with some late 70's early 80's work by Stephen King, which have some things in common with some works by Richard Connell who worked in the early 20's. I'm sure I could trace this back to the origin of the written word if I had the interest or the time.

Kakugo wrote:

Think of it this way; Black Swan is a remake of Perfect Blue in the same way that Reservoir Dogs was a remake of City on Fire. Both films have their own unique, distinct identity, but they're so indebted to that which inspired it that you can't ignore the connections once you see them. ...and yeah, for what it's worth, PACIFIC RIM strikes me much more as closer in tone to Mazinger or Gaiking, the retro 70s "Super Robot" shows with a modern aesthetic.

And Tarantino will never admit that he more or less plagiarized another work, despite having been called out on it several times, and those call-outers even having discrediting remarks lobbed at them.

Pacific Rim looks like Del Toro's way of incorporating Lovecraftian monsters, now called kaijuu, against giant robots. They're not in the same breed of Godzilla "we did it to ourselves" monsters, given that the film seems to imply they're coming here through some portal under the ocean. Though, Lovecraftian themes of fear and the unknown don't work when the audience knows what to expect, and have come to enjoy expecting giant horrible monsters. I'm hoping the film will be a bit deeper than "monsters are bad, fight em with robats" like Michael Bay would deliver.

jsieczkar wrote:

When I watched Black Swan I saw far more in common with All About Eve then I did with Perfect Blue. I guess that means based on some peoples standereds that means Sadayuki Murai ripped off Joseph Mankiewicz and is a hack. While we are at it Battle Royale has a lot in common with some late 70's early 80's work by Stephen King, which have some things in common with some works by Richard Connell who worked in the early 20's. I'm sure I could trace this back to the origin of the written word if I had the interest or the time.

Of course they all work back to the Most Dangerous Game, but the specifics are notable: kids are chosen to compete to the death, because society is somehow broken down and less than what it used to be. That's not the same as a psychopath who enjoys the sport of hunting man, animals are not cunning enough to offer true challenge. That's what makes something like Predator quite different from Battle Royale.

Somebody besides me, the two guys still working at AnimEigo, and the one guy maticulously archiving Usenet conversations from more than twenty years ago still remember Bubblegum Crisis?