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ANNCast - Moe Money, Moe Problems

Moe? I think that it might be bad for this new generation if they end up being too otaku. But when I was a child, I read so much Osamu Tezuka manga that my parents frowned upon me. My own moe? It's performing.

Hmm? Moe? Isn't moe when your heart goes "zoom"? I often feel moe, but hmm. What is it? Oh, yesterday, when one of the actresses shyly said, "I'm sorry!" I thought, "Moe!" (laugh) Hmm. That's a little too personal, so I'll think of something else.

Oh, there we go! When a woman with long hair is eating ramen, and she moves to tie her hair back, my heart goes "zoom". When we all go to ear ramen, I think, "This is moe!" as I eat mine. I'm more into people's gestures than I am things.

"Moe" is something that has grown from being an existing word to meaning "a sense of desirability" that is shared among people with a new freedom, I believe. Something that often becomes a topic of conversation and is unusually debated over is the answer to the question, "What do you feel moe over?" and the meaning of whatever the object of their moe is. The choice of "what do you feel moe over?" is up to each individual, and should be different from person to person, but some people's sense of values compel them to declare, "This is what moe is."

One should be free to choose what the object of their moe is, but those people are strong-willed in their conclusion as to what it should be. But this is also because of the way the word "moe" is used. The very way the word "moe" is used by different people is a way for them to freely express what their "sense of affirmation" is.

Yeah, a friend of mine once aid to me that "moe" is synonymous for "heart racing," which was an expression used long ago (old!).

For example, in the ending from episode 20 onward, my heart races over Hazuki. So in many ways, and excuse me for going on about this, seeing Hazuki cutting in front of the camera like that is out of this world. It just makes me think, "I'm thankful to be here together with you now."

It's like when you remember the good times or you suddenly are reminded of that sensation. I'm sure you could call it "flashback scen moe."

~~What do you think "moe" is?
Hashimoto It's a certain "something" to each person, I think. It's not something you can compare to different people, it's "something special" to each person, I think.
yuka Maybe it's something you can't put into words. For girls, when you get that feeling of moe, it's a pure feeling~~you feel something like genuineness. It's a word that has come into wide use lately, huh?
~~Do you two have anything specific that you feel "moe" over?
Hashimoto Since I like music, I get moe over old analog synthesizers. Not the kind where you can set parameters numerically, I like them where you can adjust the volume with knobs, and other sorts of analog things.
yuka I like going to the movies. When I see a cute little girl, it makes my heart flutter, but that's a little bit different from moe. But I love ballet, and Hazuki in the new ending is off-the-charts cute. The items that pop up and her poses are cute, too.

SonicRenegade84 wrote:

doctordoom85 wrote: SonicRenegade84 wrote: And one more thing I forgot to mention in my earlier post - If you think Azumanga Daioh is moe, you are out of your ****ing mind. One girl does NOT make a show "moe". Two girls, I would argue. Sakaki's strong love for animals and the struggles she faces in dealing with them is insanely moe to a lot of fans. Yeah, I did forget Sakaki. But except for her love for cats, what else makes her moe? Chiyo-chan is a given, IDK anyone who thinks dim-witted Osakan girls are moe, Tomo is just a lovable idiot, Kagura is a tomboy herself, and I guess Yomi's glasses make her moe even though it seems kind of a cop out.

You don't know anyone that thinks that Osaka is moe? Really? She's one of the most popular characters in the series, and I'd say that she's innocent, cute, quirky, etc. A character can be dumb, idiotic, a tomboy, etc and still be moe.

Why isn't Mike Toole announcing for pro football or baseball? He's got the pipes for it.

MorwenLaicoriel wrote:

SonicRenegade84 wrote: doctordoom85 wrote: SonicRenegade84 wrote: And one more thing I forgot to mention in my earlier post - If you think Azumanga Daioh is moe, you are out of your ****ing mind. One girl does NOT make a show "moe". Two girls, I would argue. Sakaki's strong love for animals and the struggles she faces in dealing with them is insanely moe to a lot of fans. Yeah, I did forget Sakaki. But except for her love for cats, what else makes her moe? Chiyo-chan is a given, IDK anyone who thinks dim-witted Osakan girls are moe, Tomo is just a lovable idiot, Kagura is a tomboy herself, and I guess Yomi's glasses make her moe even though it seems kind of a cop out. You don't know anyone that thinks that Osaka is moe? Really? She's one of the most popular characters in the series, and I'd say that she's innocent, cute, quirky, etc. A character can be dumb, idiotic, a tomboy, etc and still be moe.

Osaka was the Runner-Up in the 2002 SaiMoe Tournament. She only lost to Kinomoto Sakura (by less than 50 votes!)

Ojamajo LimePie wrote:

MorwenLaicoriel wrote: SonicRenegade84 wrote: doctordoom85 wrote: SonicRenegade84 wrote: And one more thing I forgot to mention in my earlier post - If you think Azumanga Daioh is moe, you are out of your ****ing mind. One girl does NOT make a show "moe". Two girls, I would argue. Sakaki's strong love for animals and the struggles she faces in dealing with them is insanely moe to a lot of fans. Yeah, I did forget Sakaki. But except for her love for cats, what else makes her moe? Chiyo-chan is a given, IDK anyone who thinks dim-witted Osakan girls are moe, Tomo is just a lovable idiot, Kagura is a tomboy herself, and I guess Yomi's glasses make her moe even though it seems kind of a cop out. You don't know anyone that thinks that Osaka is moe? Really? She's one of the most popular characters in the series, and I'd say that she's innocent, cute, quirky, etc. A character can be dumb, idiotic, a tomboy, etc and still be moe. Osaka was the Runner-Up in the 2002 SaiMoe Tournament. She only lost to Kinomoto Sakura (by less than 50 votes!)

I honestly don't know anyone that thinks Osaka is "cute" or "moe" itself. She's just that lovable ditz that............wait, let me guess. That's moe too.

And wait, 2002? Well, of course she'd come in second. She came from the one of the most popular animes of that yeah.

Lovable ditz is hella moe from what I've seen.

MorwenLaicoriel wrote:

Lovable ditz is hella moe from what I've seen.

After thinking about it, I see where Azumanga Daioh is moe (even though it doesn't need it to be the almighty awesome classic it is) but at this point, anything is considered moe. I could point at a block of cheese and say it's moe. Whoever said "the term moe itself is destroying anime itself" is really starting to sound smart right now.

Heh, as vehement as my support has been of Air TV (as I said it's one of my favorite series), ironically I have recently felt the vitriol of some KyoAni/Haruhi fans when I said that Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya may be the most boring anime movie I have ever watched. After all, at least Angel's Egg was less than an hour and a half long. So I can certainly agree with you that there are a lot KyoAni fans who seem to put their works on a podium.

Personally I define "moe" as "cute".

If you replace all the instance in which a character is described as "moe" with "cute", the meaning probably will not change.