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Demaar
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I don't know (nor care) if it's viable, but they should do two releases of it like bands do for album releases: one with explicit content, one without.
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E_X
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It is basics of every business to listen to what the customer wants. Ignoring the fans like that is digging your own grave. If the butchered manga is in fact selling well, the fans that are buying it are saying "it's ok, do what the hell you want. edit all you like, i'll still buy it" which will cause more cases like this from now on.
If the people at DC think Tenjou Tenge is so improper, why license it in the first place? |
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Haiseikoh 1973
 Posts: 1590 Location: Waiting for the Japanese 1000 Gunieas. |
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I think now it's time for the Protestors to switch tactics, since CMX seems to be being stubborn with Fan Response.
A good idea would be now to start dialogue with the bookstores and other retailers and see if they are willing to support an unedited TenTen release. If the Protestors can rationally show that there is a sizeable demand and justifiable sales (i.e. minimal to nil thefts, people will buy an Unedited TenTen instead of going "Bookburning" Mode) then that could be a great lever against CMX. If a Bookstore realizes the number of fans that want a Unedited TenTen Release, don'tcha think they'd capitalize on it? |
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Godaistudios
Posts: 2075 Location: Albuquerque, NM (the land of entrapment) |
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Well, in all fairness, the fans were in an uproar about it, and frankly, Negima has been on the top of the selling list. Whether or not this is actually evidence that not censoring your manga may be up for debate, but it is a considerably worthy argument. I know that I went from a "won't buy" to "buy" when Del Rey came out, apologized to the fans, and said they would do it shrink wrapped instead. |
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R.G.
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Del Rey apologized?HAH! Negima on top of the selling list?HAH again! |
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Llert
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I have no idea what you're laughing about.
Del Rey apologized. It is a fact. Negima is selling very well. It is a fact. |
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kenshin77
Posts: 84 Location: The OC |
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Do you have proof?, because I know many people who are now buying Negima because they have decided to release it unedited. Del Rey is pushing out really good quality manga out in the market. I know their translations could be better, but I think they will be in the manga market for quite sometime. |
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HitokiriShadow
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Because... |
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BuffaloStyle
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Exactly. Listening to your consumers is good business while thumbing your nose at your consumers is arrogant. Or stupid. I, for one, will not be purchasing any titles from CMX since they have shown that they don't care about what the consumers want. Why license an adult title only to hack the heck out of it with edits?? Shrink wrapping the title is a great way to get your product out there without getting yourself in trouble. Bravo to Del Rey, TokyoPop and Dark Horse. Boo to CMX. "CMX: Pure Manga" pfft. Yeah, right. |
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Kagemusha
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Yes, because I'm sure that the conservatives running DC consider Tenjho Tenge far more offensive than Transmetropolitan... But why are people asking "Why bring a mature title over if they're going to censor it?". Simple: money. They beleive that they'll make more money by marketing TT to a younger audience, even if it alienates the hardcore fans. After all, there are a ton of younger readers now who probobly never go onto websites with news like this, and while TT is visually graphic, it's content is more suited for a younger audience. I don't particuarlly like TT, but I've never really been enthusiastic about CMX in the first place since their book quality is probobly the poorest on the market. But now that I think about it more, I don't think that the edits are nessisarily permanent. One volume isn't enough to judge a marketing plan by. I'd imagine that if the sales continually drop over time, CMX will release another version. Or that could have been their plan from the beginning to trick people into buying two versions. |
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midori kou
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People keep saying that some things that are unedited don't sell well. But realistically, that's what the anime and manga industries in America have established in the past. Viz did it. Tokyopop did it. Del Rey did it. CPM did it. CMX did it. So what? You guys keep complaining about it and seeking for evidence to support it. You know what, editing/censorship STILL occurs whether there is a fanbase or not already in existance. In Japan, they edit too. They censor too. But that's for their society, not ours. If you are so concern if the explict scenes were edited, just learn Japanese, buy the original and enjoy the visuals. So far, all the support for making it unedited is rather unconviencing. All in all, sounds like everyone want the sex. Just get porn.
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Haiseikoh 1973
Posts: 1590 Location: Waiting for the Japanese 1000 Gunieas. |
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Yeah, but in the USA, they don't "Mosaic" Vaginas and Penises. CMX pretty much went to the guys that "censor" Hollywood Movies and asked them to take a stab at it. |
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Urusai
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Ya, wait for CMX to release Cool Devices manga. They should rate it PG-13 so everyone can see it. /sarcasm |
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kenshin77
Posts: 84 Location: The OC |
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This isnt about the porn, the reason for all this uproar is that if one manga gets edited, will there be more manga that will be edited? Will we see more manga that will become edited? More violent manga will have blood brushed out, Shounen romance manga will have less panty shots, and Vulgarity will no longer be seen. Face if there is more editing in manga, there will be less free speech, and less free expression in manga. |
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Godaistudios
Posts: 2075 Location: Albuquerque, NM (the land of entrapment) |
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One of the most appealing things about the Ten Ten manga is based on raw and visual it is in nature. Whether this is about nudity, sex, or heavy graphic violence, the raw nature is hurt when you start to censor things out. And nudity/sex isn't the only thing that has been censored if you look at the list of edits that have thus far occoured. Moreover, even if it was about the sexual situations, they are still a part of the storyline. Even without showing all the naughty bits, with the way that the censoring is being handled, there are still scenes in there that are still inappropriate for younger teens to see/read. That's all the more reason for us to object. It's irresponsible to censor an manga that's clearly made for adults and make it a "teen" rating if the content is still inappropriate for those teens to read. |
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