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studioplugnplay



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:03 pm Reply with quote
Andromeda wrote:
I saw a site that had the Witch Hunter Robin boxset with only English subtitles, and with a dub, using the real boxset art, etc... but the only clues it was a bootleg (unless you were to buy it, in which case I'm sure you'd be able to tell somehow) were that it was being sold for like $20 for the entire series, and because it was on a site that included some sets and DVDs that had Chinese subtitles listed in the descriptions.

Additionally, the video could have been seemlessly lifted from the Japanese DVDs (who knows, maybe the English subtitles were, too - I've heard of some Japanese DVDs including English subs) and the English audio from a modified DVR's recording of the dub on cartoon network (it's possible, at least). If he hadn't seen Kyle Pope's Edit List for it or the release notes for the DVD releases... maybe he just had no idea of what he was buying. ESPECIALLY if it included the English dub and only English or English and Japanese subtitles, since most boots just do subtitles and usually include Chinese ones. It's only recently that they've wised up and started including dubs and excluding Chinese subs from their DVDs too further fool the more gullible buyers, I think.

-Jamie


I saw this with Gungrave. He was using the touched up Geneon American DVD screenshots on his Ebay page when he was in fact selling the actual Japanese VHS versions of the shows. The difference...HUGE!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/gynograve2/victorVSgeneon/img20040410140724.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/gynograve2/victorVSgeneon/img20041023225919.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/gynograve2/victorVSgeneon/upload19027.jpg

When I pointed this out to him he did nothing to change it and kept on selling. I also notice in his other auctions he was selling Gungrave the DVD using the Gungrave OD poster art as it's cover. (>_>)

-G
Gungrave Fansite
http://gynocrat.com/elegant_madness
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Andromeda



Joined: 28 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:17 pm Reply with quote
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Bootlegs these days are getting really good. And I don't mean that in the positive way. But once you've seen a type of bootleg with a particular layout, it's hard to fall for it again. I have a few sets of bootleg DVDs, and the quality of the video and packaging isn't lacking at all. You've got more expensive and harder to spot bootlegs nowadays, which has me only buying off sites people have said are safe. A lot of people just don't care, as long as it's cheap. A whole lot of bootlegs also come with holographic stickers on them, which isn't all that great either.


...which is exactly why I rarely buy from anywhere except for Barnes & Noble, Best Buy, or RightStuf.com. Wink In fact, though I've occasionally bought manga, and certainly have bought things like models (which I've started collecting - God, some of those things are gorgeous!), Cosplay stuff, art, notebooks, or bags from cons, due to the recent surge in crackdowns on many previously respected anime retailers at cons out west, I've long since decided to refrain from buying any video or audio at cons (we all know how easy it is to copy a CD, VCD or DVD). Wink


-Runa27
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minakichan





PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:37 pm Reply with quote
Erm...isn't it possible that dani actually DID buy legit Samurai Champloo--as in, legal Japanese DVDs without subs? I mean, there's tons of anime stores that import from Japan...

Yes, bootlegging is a problem, but we shouldn't just jump to conclusions. Perhaps he did buy a bootleg, but perhaps he did not.
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Cowpunk



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:21 am Reply with quote
Ono-san, who helped me with the kanji in volume 2 of the Anime Companion, has generously sent me quite a few links related to uchimizu.

I quote from his email:

I suppose this is the article in the Japan Times which you have mentioned at the forum.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20040818f1.htm

And the site of the joint office of nonprofit organisations that do the Uchimizu events (Uchimizu Daisakusen, Operation Uchimizu) is

http://www.uchimizu.jp/index02.html

The site of the uchimizu volunteer group in Akibahara is

http://uchimizukko.chu.jp/

The Ministry of Environment begins a plan to use uchimizu as a potential mitigation strategy about the heat island phenomenon.

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20050709p2a00m0na015000c.html

But the English version of the article is something like an abridged edition. Uchimizu is mentioned more clearly in this original Japanese article.

http://www.mainichi-msn.co.jp/science/news/20050709dde001010066000c.html

Ôbayashi-gumi, a major construction company in Japan, has developed a new technology 'Uchimizu Road', which uchimizu is applied to, to cool a road and the air over the road.

http://www.asahi.com/life/update/0625/009.html

There is a page in English in the site of the office of the Uchimizu event.

http://www.uchimizu.jp/eng.html

Japan Pavilion on the Web of EXPO 2005 has a page in English on uchimizu.
Mr Oda Hideaki is the representative of the office of the Uchimizu event I have mentioned above and in the previous mail.

http://www.nippon-kan.jp/making/new_041126/index_e.php

A page of Foreign Press Centre Japan regarding Uchimizu Press Tour.

http://www.fpcj.jp/e/mass/presstour/pt_50.html

Another page of the Japan Times about uchimizu.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20040819a6.htm

Uchimizu as a kigo (season word) of haiku.

http://worldkigodatabase.blogspot.com/2006/07/sprinkling-water-uchimizu.html
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