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dtm42



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:33 pm Reply with quote
And my point is that "expensive" is also relative. Prices have increased not only in the States but also in other parts of the world, and America still enjoys extremely cheap fuel relative to other developed countries.

Americans do have long commutes, but so do people in Britain, Australia, New Zealand, and elsewhere. Americans don't have good public transportation except in cities, but the same can be said of most countries around the world.

So please do us all a favour and refrain from insensitively complaining about high fuel prices when you have it so ridiculously easy. It's kind of like whining that you 'only' scored 98% on the test.
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I'm really hoping someone gets the Kenshin live-action movie out here at some point. The OVA just left a really bad taste.
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I'm getting Sweet Blue Flowers as soon as I get my salary. I'm really looking forward to finally watching it, because Takako Shimura is also responsible for Wandering Son which is one of my favourites.

Toriko sounds absolutely hilarious to me. I think that I might have to give that one a go.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:09 pm Reply with quote
dtm42 wrote:
And my point is that "expensive" is also relative. Prices have increased not only in the States but also in other parts of the world, and America still enjoys extremely cheap fuel relative to other developed countries. ...

So please do us all a favour and refrain from insensitively complaining about high fuel prices when you have it so ridiculously easy. It's kind of like whining that you 'only' scored 98% on the test.


I had a conversation with a visiting Austrian about his car's gas mileage, and from what I understand, European cars also get much better mileage. So you're also using less gas than we are. Also everything in the US is spaced pretty far apart-- often you have to drive several miles to get to a grocery store, and our grocery stores are stocked such that not many are "one stop" shops, thus making us need to drive even further distances. ;p

How much gas (volume) do you reckon you buy in a year?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:35 pm Reply with quote
Also public transportation isn't just bad in suburbia/country in the US.

Many cities do not have good public transport. I live in a city that has relatively good public transport but I still rate it poor compared to many places I visited around the world.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:09 pm Reply with quote
The interesting thing about the mileage situation is that the most fuel-efficient cars(which could rival - or exceed - the mileage of modern hybrids) were banned from sale in the US in the nineties, not too long before the price of gas starting soaring, because they were suddenly deemed to be "unsafe"(an interesting comparison: the '76 Dodge Dart Lite got 36 MPG, while the '13 Dodge Dart gets... 36 MPG, despite being a smaller, newer car with a four cylinder engine instead of six, because it weighs nearly a quarter of a ton more).

So while Americans might pay lower gas prices than elsewhere, we also have to deal with heavier cars and longer distances.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:04 pm Reply with quote
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I don't know how Americans can spend so much money on petrol when it's so cheap to buy. Petrol in New Zealand is almost twice as expensive as in the States, and Europe is even more expensive than us. So to all you Yanks, it makes no sense for you to complain about prices when they are so low.


It' s because 'MURRIKA is huge as hell--everything is spaced out and you have to drive FOREVER to get anywhere. My dad has to drive for like an hour and a half just to take me to school and get to work, for example.

Yeah gas is cheap but we don't have good public transit because that's "socialism" (that is seriously why so many right-wingers here are opposed to it) and we have to drive everywhere.
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Chagen46 wrote:
dtm42 wrote:
I don't know how Americans can spend so much money on petrol when it's so cheap to buy. Petrol in New Zealand is almost twice as expensive as in the States, and Europe is even more expensive than us. So to all you Yanks, it makes no sense for you to complain about prices when they are so low.


It' s because 'MURRIKA is huge as hell--everything is spaced out and you have to drive FOREVER to get anywhere. My dad has to drive for like an hour and a half just to take me to school and get to work, for example.

Yeah gas is cheap but we don't have good public transit because that's "socialism" (that is seriously why so many right-wingers here are opposed to it) and we have to drive everywhere.


I may not know shit about American public transportation but I think public transportation is shitty everywhere, and seeing how the US has always been the banner of capitalism and neoliberalism, I can't see how trashy public transport can be blamed on socialism unless you're completely misunderstanding the word.

And unless the buses are running on three wheels, I don't see how public transport can be shitty enough to prefer spending whatever you spend on petrol to taking -slower, yet a lot cheaper transportation
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:35 pm Reply with quote
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Chagen46 wrote:
dtm42 wrote:
I don't know how Americans can spend so much money on petrol when it's so cheap to buy. Petrol in New Zealand is almost twice as expensive as in the States, and Europe is even more expensive than us. So to all you Yanks, it makes no sense for you to complain about prices when they are so low.


It' s because 'MURRIKA is huge as hell--everything is spaced out and you have to drive FOREVER to get anywhere. My dad has to drive for like an hour and a half just to take me to school and get to work, for example.

Yeah gas is cheap but we don't have good public transit because that's "socialism" (that is seriously why so many right-wingers here are opposed to it) and we have to drive everywhere.


I may not know shit about American public transportation but I think public transportation is shitty everywhere, and seeing how the US has always been the banner of capitalism and neoliberalism, I can't see how trashy public transport can be blamed on socialism unless you're completely misunderstanding the word.

And unless the buses are running on three wheels, I don't see how public transport can be shitty enough to prefer spending whatever you spend on petrol to taking -slower, yet a lot cheaper transportation


It's not chagen that's misunderstanding the word. We seriously have politicians here that argue any government activity is "socialism", "communism", or "fascism", unless they serve their particular political group. I personally love when they use all three words together to describe our government, when they clearly have no understanding of the terms.
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I can't see how trashy public transport can be blamed on socialism unless you're completely misunderstanding the word.


Yup. Most americans have no clue what socialism actually IS. In the views of most normal americans, everything is socialism. Public education, unions, health care, gay rights, hell, public fire and police departments are "socialism". I'm not kidding--many right-wingers here are vehemently opposed to public education, though that's more because it actually educates kids instead of religiously indoctrinating them while filling their minds with pseudo-scientific lies.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:12 pm Reply with quote
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Keichitsu0305 wrote:

Everyone is in a tissy about this mummy sex scene that I just might watch New Kyoto Arc just to see how stupid it is.


It's not at all graphic, and is mostly implied. You hear Yumi moaning about how she's filled with (physical) heat, and you just see Shishio bobbing up and down. What makes it bizarre that he's still completely wrapped up in his bandages, so then your brain's natural progression is, "Wait, so.... how did... does he just.... what part is wrapped...?" and then your mind spirals into other questions, like "how much of his body is burned?" and "is it still burned???"

The actual scene itself is harmless. It just does strange things to your imagination.
Nothing to imagine if Yumi is tell us that part obviously got saved from the fire. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:44 pm Reply with quote
ANN_Bamboo wrote:

I had a conversation with a visiting Austrian about his car's gas mileage, and from what I understand, European cars also get much better mileage. So you're also using less gas than we are. Also everything in the US is spaced pretty far apart-- often you have to drive several miles to get to a grocery store, and our grocery stores are stocked such that not many are "one stop" shops, thus making us need to drive even further distances. ;p

How much gas (volume) do you reckon you buy in a year?
I can tell you that in Britain petrol and diesel is sold by the litre as it is in Europe. To compare a litre is roughly 2 X 16oz., US pints. I use diesel in my 4-cyclinder Toyota Avensis. It gets 55 MPG on the motorway. At present we pay roughly £1.46 a litre for it (petrol and diesel is usually cheaper by 4 or 5 pence depending on where you live here.) So at todays exchange rate that $2.18 for 2 pints of fuel oil for my car. Today I filled my car up. It took 47 litres(12.4 USgal.) to fill my 60 litre tank. the price today was £1.43/ltr. it came to £67.50. That's $100.71. I have to do this every week just to commute back and forth to work in West London from Basingstoke up and down the M3 Motorway, that's a 90 miles round trip. Sure we have public transport, trains and busses, but I work silly hours round the clock and passenger trains stop running between the hours of 0100 and 0500 for planned maintenance on tracks and signaling, so is no use to me. You yanks don't know you were born. Wink

BTW you can thank the oil companies for the state of Public Tranportation on the west coast of the US as they bought them all up back in the late '40's and early 50's and put them all out of business, then bribed the states there to build more roads for cars and trucks.
Remember Red Cars? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:40 pm Reply with quote
So, an installment of Shelf Life has turned into people spewing their political beliefs? Seriously? I thought the point of these threads was to talk about the article. Guess I was wrong...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:10 pm Reply with quote
Echo_City wrote:
jr0904 wrote:

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As for the other one , it's very interesting since i am a yuri fanatic, but since Nozomi didn't included an english dub just like with Maria Watches Over US , i'll have to skip this series as well. Luckily I still have Kannazuki no Miko.
I'm with you on this. My yuri fanaticism is likely lesser than yours, but my desire to purchase both this and Maria Watches Over Us was quashed by Nozomi/RightStuf's decision to forego English dubs (It's a shame that the last RS dubbed property I saw was The Third, which I found to be execrable). I tried the subs, by which I mainly mean the Japanese dub, for 'em and I found that I didn't care for them. I find that interesting as other similar shows which went undubbed, like Strawberry Panic were fine IMO undubbed (though I would have preferred a dub).

I can't see how Toriko is "shelf worthy". Watching the dub, I've found it entertaining enough to legally stream from Funimation, but I can't imagine being moved to buy it outright. Does it really have "rewatchability"?


Doubt it. though Toriko is indeed shelf worthy.

Also Right Stuff/Nozomi have that really bad habit of giving potentially good series no english dubs at all. I was glad they give one to ninja nonsense and the thrid, but it's the last known dub made by them. every other title have been sub only.

and the biggest gripe dub fans have with them was of all titles they give Emma an english dub

I mean come on. Of all titles of Right Stuff , Emma should have at least gotten an english dub cause of it's storyline alone.

it's why i am not susrpised this new title didn't get one and it's why i'm skipping it even though i am a yuri fan.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:22 pm Reply with quote
ANN_Bamboo wrote:
How much gas (volume) do you reckon you buy in a year?


Me? I'm lucky. I only have a twenty-two minute commute each way (that's pretty good for much of New Zealand), and the nearest supermarket is 2km (1.25 miles) away. It's about 1,650L (434 gallons) to run my car annually, and that doesn't include trips such as holidays or seeing the relatives. That works out to be almost exactly $3,000 in American dollars (at today's exchange rate). That's low, yes, but the average Aucklander faces a ninety-minute commute each way and that's if they get on the motorway before 7am. I sure am glad I don't live there.

Chagen46 wrote:
It' s because 'MURRIKA is huge as hell--everything is spaced out and you have to drive FOREVER to get anywhere. My dad has to drive for like an hour and a half just to take me to school and get to work, for example.


Eh, that's not out of the ordinary. Urban sprawl is a global problem; in New Zealand we are sacrificing the most productive farmland in the world just to build more suburbs at our cities' fringes. Ugh.
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