Forum - View topicShelf Life - The Last Unicorn
|
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Next Note: this is the discussion thread for this article |
| Author | Message | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Animehermit
 Posts: 964 Location: The Argama |
|
|||||||||||
each episode is about an hour long. but i believe its well worth the price, especially if your a big fan of the meta-series. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
YotaruVegeta
 Posts: 1061 Location: New York |
|
|||||||||||
|
Eh, well worth someone's price. I'll be willing to buy it, though.
|
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
penguintruth
 Posts: 8459 Location: Penguinopolis |
|
|||||||||||
|
Yeah, even to a huge Gundam fan like me it's a little pricey.
I'll still get it, but I'll be shaking my fist at Bandai as I order it. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
|
Animehermit
Posts: 964 Location: The Argama |
|
|||||||||||
you could think of it this way, 1 hour long episode is about the same as 3 average episodes of any other anime show. 40$ is a bit steep for that, but not by much. well, at least for this show. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
Charred Knight
 Posts: 3085 |
|
|||||||||||
I could get 13 episodes of FMA Brotherhood for that price so yeah it's still too much for what they're trying to sell. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
|
Animehermit
Posts: 964 Location: The Argama |
|
|||||||||||
for DVDs maybe, but for Blurays? its not too overpriced. A lot of the Blurays where i live (the good ones anyway) are still pushing the 30-40 dollar range. No ones forcing you to buy it, you've made your disdain for this pretty clear over the course of the thread. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
|
IAmZim
Posts: 15 |
|
|||||||||||
In my view? To flesh out the universal century. Explain, in full, the reason Zeonism continues to exist (this is the brunt of episode two) what motivates their political ideology and why it fosters. To explain the place of usually overlooked aspects of UC, like religion (again touched upon in episode 2, but will also be touched upon in the islamic militants arc of episode 4) Other aspects which are further expounded on are the inner working of the federation government, and how it came into being. The other point of Unicorn? To update UC Gundam. There are obvious parallels between warfare in Gundam Unicorn and modern 3rd generational warfare. Whether it be the tactics of ECOAS (obviously meant to represent US military tactics like drone strikes, especially at the start of episode 3) or in the ideologies of Zeonism portrayed in UC, and its similarities to islamic militants. Hell, later on in the novel actual Islamic Zeon faction become involved Finally? The most obvious point of Unicorn is to give early UC both a stunningly well-made tribute, and a surprisingly emotionally resonant swansong I have some issues with Unicorn. The visual cues and homages to the original series are both distracting, and occasionally prevent the series from having its own visual identity (especially in the third episode) However the stunning visuals, cinematic direction and one of the best OST's I've heard in years make it a thrill ride, and one of the best made examples of the Gundam formula. However, you don't have to dig too deep to find some interesting innovation. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
|
Charred Knight
Posts: 3085 |
|
|||||||||||
No blu-rays, compare the price for the latest release of Gundam Unicorn vs the latest release of FMA Brotherhood. http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/Pm-uGMfQfvzo7DDpbc/browse/item/91179/4/0/0 http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/Pm-uGMfQfvzo7DDpbc/browse/item/90043/4/0/0 My problem is that CCA was the perfect ending for the Zeon vs Federation war. The Zeon find out that hatred against the Earth is wrong and help save the Earth. Amuro and Char are spoiler[killed in Action] having their rivalry end at the same time as the Federation vs Zeon war. How do you end the conflict now? Last edited by Charred Knight on Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
nightjuan
 Posts: 1473 |
|
|||||||||||
|
While your views are quite interesting to read through, it would be advisable if you were a little more careful with those spoilers for unaired episodes, in spite of how minor they appear to be on the surface.
It's certainly addressing those issues but I don't think that's meant to be a complete explanation, even from a purely in-universe perspective, instead of just an informed interpretation that mostly incorporates preexisting notions. The idea of establishing a parallel between political and religious extremism is indeed interesting though...so you could say the specific frame of reference is fairly creative, I guess, but it's far from being subtle or unheard of in the grand scheme of things. As for the question of religion as a whole...I don't know about what will happen later on, I'll defer to those who know better, but at the moment the issue just seems to work as an useful metaphor for other conflicts rather than as an actual topic of discussion in and of itself. spoiler[Also, if they're really going to bring "islamism" into the story as you've suggested that seems remarkably stereotypical and potentially tasteless...especially considering that real religious extremism is not limited to any particular belief system. It may qualify as taking a risk but it's not exactly one that should always be welcomed with open arms. Still, I'll try and be open-minded. ]
Perhaps that will also depend on how later events are handled, but other than the question of Laplace's Box itself...conspiracies involving the likes of Anaheim and other parties aren't exactly a new subject. We already know the Federation is far from sacrosanct and actually has been willing to engage in any number of secret dealings.
Looking at what you've referenced, I'm assuming you meant fourth generation warfare. Leaving any future developments aside...I'd say you're making a hasty generalization here, considering barely a couple of scenes would qualify as such. Most of the combat is far better choreographed and animated than usual but otherwise not necessarily novel in terms of traditional mecha action.
Unicorn is clearly a wonderful tribute to past Gundam works but I find it rather difficult to believe that Sunrise has any real intention of finally giving the UC setting a rest once and for all. They may have moved their weekly TV productions into the realm of alternate universes years ago but I don't see how Unicorn's success would suggest Sunrise will refrain from making more and more OVAs aimed at exactly the same target audience. Not that this is a bad thing, mind you, since despite my qualms I'm also a part of it.
I suppose that can be subjective...I'd say Unicorn is intentionally trying to reproduce older aesthetics with superior production values. It's definitely attempting to "blend in" but so far I've never felt that the line has been truly and irrevocably crossed.
Setting aside whatever I've said before, I'm not going to deny this is surely the best implementation of the formula in years. That alone deserves praise. Its degree of innovation, however, is something that remains open to debate. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
|
Animehermit
Posts: 964 Location: The Argama |
|
|||||||||||
Quality of releases aside, i don't think thats too much, Your basically buying a Japanese Blu-Ray, and if you really like the series its worth a buy. This is not like that Garden of Sinners(which i would probably buy too if i had the money) boxset, 50 bucks for a good blu-ray is steep but its not a HUGE detriment to the release. Then again if you don't want too, don't buy it, the only people who really have any right to complain are the ones who shelled out the cash for it. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
|
YotaruVegeta
Posts: 1061 Location: New York |
|
|||||||||||
|
animehermit, a blu ray costs, what, $25-30 normally? I think it's about $10 overpriced. I can't imagine what crazy price it goes for in Japan.
|
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
amagee
 Posts: 333 Location: Orlando, FL |
|
|||||||||||
As a huge Gundam fan, I'd be interested if you might mention a few of the particular scenes that jarred you for the sake of discussion. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
eyeresist
 Posts: 995 Location: a 320x240 resolution igloo (Sydney) |
|
|||||||||||
|
gundam gundam gundam gundam gundam gundam gundam gundam...
But I'm much more interested in Princess Jellyfish. I really hope there is a DVD release of this. Hopefully it is a better contribution to the Real Girl genre than the frankly not-good Girls High. "Genre"? Well, I can hope. Obviously, since I fancy girls with messy hair and no makeup, preferably in sweatpants, I am a pervert of some description. Therefore anime must cater to me! |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
|
Ingraman
Posts: 1077 |
|
|||||||||||
You've just identified Garden of Sinners. ^_^ $50/BD is exactly what TRSI was selling it for, just like Gundam Unicorn. It just happened to be in a set, rather than singles.
I don't see a problem with people complaining if they feel that something is too expensive. Anime is very much a niche product, and I think that the US pricing is generally pretty good (packaging and extras might suck, though). I'm not sure if I've ever complained that a video release was too expensive, but I have skipped buying something until the price decreased. I passed on Fruits Basket until the $40 singles fell to $30, and I skipped the Kanon TV series until Funi put out its SAVE version... Well, I think that Legend of the Galactic Heroes has a price that's higher than what I'll pay for a single set of discs (but that may be partially due to the fact that I haven't seen more than a couple of episodes and don't have a great interest in it ^^; ), but there are an awful lot of discs in the set. There are a number of series that I wasn't sufficiently interested in to bother importing the Japanese releases, so I bought the US versions. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
|
YotaruVegeta
Posts: 1061 Location: New York |
|
|||||||||||
|
eyeresist, I think Gundam's getting the shine because, well, it's Gundam, and also because Princess Jellyfish can actually be seen somewhere.
I, for example, have been dying to see Gundam Unicorn. I've already seen Princess Jellyfish and have already had a great experience with it. Now I wanna see robots and whatnot. |
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
 |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
|
|
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group