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Megiddo
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:34 pm
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Sad to hear those jokes got removed. How about the awkward-as-hell guy shouting "RICE!" after HTT gives an impromptu performance of "Gohan wa Okazu"? And I hope they kept Azu-sist in the subs. It's pretty understandable why they couldn't do it in the dub.
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MarthKoopa
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:03 pm
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Azu-sist isn't even in the subtitles.
But why would they not do it in the dub? I don't see what's so "understandable" about removing it. It's awkward because Azusa still visually reacts to it.
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Touma
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:17 pm
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MarthKoopa wrote: | Azu-sist isn't even in the subtitles.
But why would they not do it in the dub? I don't see what's so "understandable" about removing it. It's awkward because Azusa still visually reacts to it. |
Since I have seen only the Sentai release I do not know what you are talking about.
What was the joke?
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StormSky92
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:43 pm
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"Cute girls doing cute things" is a legitimate plot.
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MarthKoopa
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:44 pm
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Touma wrote: |
MarthKoopa wrote: | Azu-sist isn't even in the subtitles.
But why would they not do it in the dub? I don't see what's so "understandable" about removing it. It's awkward because Azusa still visually reacts to it. |
Since I have seen only the Sentai release I do not know what you are talking about.
What was the joke? |
Just some puns with Azusa's name. One example being Ritsu asking "Mio, let me Azusist you with that" in the revolving lift.
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Greboruri
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:20 pm
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Mohawk52 wrote: | I was not comfortable watching it. I felt like a stalker peeking in though a hole in the wall at these girls. |
This statement says a lot more about you than is does about "K-On!".
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Animegomaniac
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:14 pm
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I initially skipped the show as I heard {and continue to do so} that is was boring but I decided to get into it after watching the first episode of the second season, namely because of Yui's aping of Pete Townsend's circle guitar play and I was curious to see how far it went, which was pretty far for supposed fluff {Somebody did their homework}.
I haven't seen the movie {Yui's writing the lyrics to another heartfelt song song, the final song and not Mio's usual fluffy junk? There's no plot so that's not a spoiler? Is that how it works?} but I will buy once the second season gets a complete release but even without seeing it, it's clearly a coda and not the grand finale that was the ending of the TV series {To steal a bit from Twain: To go further than that would no longer be the story of a girl band but be a story about a band of women}. Which is perfectly fine; there's no weight or load here as it's the club before the band. And that's the way it's always been which confuses reviewers for some reason.
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zeo1fan
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:24 pm
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LOL. What is this nonsense? A plot is too much to expect now? A plot is what happens in the story. Real character development can't happen unless something happens to the characters. The characters of a story are the agents of the plot! Why should a story get a free pass if it has nothing of value to contribute except giving fans something pretty to look at until a real story comes along? Trying to define the quality of a story by your relationship with it is ludicrous. For example, I happen to love Slayers but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its fair share of flaws. I enjoy the unintentional comedy of "The Room" but that doesn't mean it's not a terribly written movie.
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:52 pm
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zeo1fan wrote: | LOL. What is this nonsense? A plot is too much to expect now? A plot is what happens in the story. Real character development can't happen unless something happens to the characters. The characters of a story are the agents of the plot! Why should a story get a free pass if it has nothing of value to contribute except giving fans something pretty to look at until a real story comes along? Trying to define the quality of a story by your relationship with it is ludicrous. For example, I happen to love Slayers but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its fair share of flaws. I enjoy the unintentional comedy of "The Room" but that doesn't mean it's not a terribly written movie. |
And K-On has a plot, its not a hugely epic one or anything, but its enough for its purposes.
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zeo1fan
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:55 pm
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RyanSaotome wrote: |
− Lightweight gag humor and weak plotting continue to be this franchise's downfall.
Weak plotting? Why would you even go into K-On looking for plot? Not everything has to have some great plot to be really good. |
I was responding to this comment.
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zeo1fan
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:06 pm
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Fencedude5609 wrote: |
zeo1fan wrote: | LOL. What is this nonsense? A plot is too much to expect now? A plot is what happens in the story. Real character development can't happen unless something happens to the characters. The characters of a story are the agents of the plot! Why should a story get a free pass if it has nothing of value to contribute except giving fans something pretty to look at until a real story comes along? Trying to define the quality of a story by your relationship with it is ludicrous. For example, I happen to love Slayers but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its fair share of flaws. I enjoy the unintentional comedy of "The Room" but that doesn't mean it's not a terribly written movie. |
And K-On has a plot, its not a hugely epic one or anything, but its enough for its purposes. |
Why do people immediately go to that extreme when defending it? They say things like: "Why are people looking for a plot? It's not Death Note!" And in the process, make it sound as though they're vilifying works with actual stories to tell. It's ridiculous. There are low-key series that do have sufficient plots and well-developed characters.
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RyanSaotome
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:20 pm
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zeo1fan wrote: |
Fencedude5609 wrote: |
zeo1fan wrote: | LOL. What is this nonsense? A plot is too much to expect now? A plot is what happens in the story. Real character development can't happen unless something happens to the characters. The characters of a story are the agents of the plot! Why should a story get a free pass if it has nothing of value to contribute except giving fans something pretty to look at until a real story comes along? Trying to define the quality of a story by your relationship with it is ludicrous. For example, I happen to love Slayers but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its fair share of flaws. I enjoy the unintentional comedy of "The Room" but that doesn't mean it's not a terribly written movie. |
And K-On has a plot, its not a hugely epic one or anything, but its enough for its purposes. |
Why do people immediately go to that extreme when defending it? They say things like: "Why are people looking for a plot? It's not Death Note!" And in the process, make it sound as though they're vilifying works with actual stories to tell. It's ridiculous. There are low-key series that do have sufficient plots and well-developed characters. |
Its because theres no reason to focus on plot for a relaxing slice of life show. All it would do is take away from its strengths.
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zeo1fan
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:43 pm
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RyanSaotome wrote: |
zeo1fan wrote: |
Fencedude5609 wrote: |
zeo1fan wrote: | LOL. What is this nonsense? A plot is too much to expect now? A plot is what happens in the story. Real character development can't happen unless something happens to the characters. The characters of a story are the agents of the plot! Why should a story get a free pass if it has nothing of value to contribute except giving fans something pretty to look at until a real story comes along? Trying to define the quality of a story by your relationship with it is ludicrous. For example, I happen to love Slayers but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its fair share of flaws. I enjoy the unintentional comedy of "The Room" but that doesn't mean it's not a terribly written movie. |
And K-On has a plot, its not a hugely epic one or anything, but its enough for its purposes. |
Why do people immediately go to that extreme when defending it? They say things like: "Why are people looking for a plot? It's not Death Note!" And in the process, make it sound as though they're vilifying works with actual stories to tell. It's ridiculous. There are low-key series that do have sufficient plots and well-developed characters. |
Its because theres no reason to focus on plot for a relaxing slice of life show. All it would do is take away from its strengths. |
Right. And all organs do is weigh down a skeleton. One might normally think a compelling plot would only serve to boost the pretty art and animation. Is K-On the 'Freddy Got Fingered' of anime? I'd personally find it rather amusing if K-On's fanbase were comprised wholly of dadaist philosophers. Though at the same time, it'd be unsurprising.
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LUNI_TUNZ
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:25 pm
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DmonHiro wrote: | You need good plot for a show to be good? Oh really? Then I guess Seinfeld was shit, wasn't it? Or, for a more anime example, Azumanga Daioh, Dragonball Z, Sailor Moon, those were all crap, right? |
Sailor Moon and Dragonball Z had plot. What are you talking about?
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Fencedude5609
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:27 pm
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zeo1fan wrote: |
Why do people immediately go to that extreme when defending it? They say things like: "Why are people looking for a plot? It's not Death Note!" And in the process, make it sound as though they're vilifying works with actual stories to tell. It's ridiculous. There are low-key series that do have sufficient plots and well-developed characters. |
People make shitty arguments? Why should I care what people who suck at arguing their position do?
K-On has more than enough plot to support its actual goal, character interaction.
If you don't like it, well, thats an entirely different issue.
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